Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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I'll give it a try
by kragil on Fri 30th Sep 2011 05:32 UTC
kragil
Member since:
2006-01-04

1. Firefox
2. Thunderbird
3. LibreOffice
4. Chrome/Chromium
5. Blender
6. Transmission
7. Nautilus
8. Okular
9. Calibre
10. VLC
11. MPlayer
12. Amarok
13. Banshee
14. Konqeror
15. OpenShot
16. Audacity
17. Grip
18. Hydrogen
19. Muse
20. Rosegarden
21. Gimp
22. Inkscape
23. KToon
24. Krita
25. Hugin
26. Scribus
27. Synfig
28. Avidemux
29. Recordmydesktop
30. Conky
31. Filezilla
32. GParted
33. K3B
34. Pidgin
35. VNC
36. Eclipse
37. Gobby
38. Quanta
39. GnomeDo
40. Homebank
41. QtCreator
42. Gnumeric


This is a geek discussion so I will stop at 42 and I haven't even named editors and terminals etc ;-)
Just because all the Windows and Mac people don't care about Linux and don't know apps that don't have big marketing budgets does not mean that there aren't great apps on Linux.
Sure Linux is lacking in the Games and Video editing department, but tools for working with text/code and sound are top.

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RE: I'll give it a try
by Slambert666 on Fri 30th Sep 2011 05:43 in reply to "I'll give it a try"
Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30


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7. Nautilus
...


From the article:

"When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10,"


If you put nautilus on the list you are obviously not talking about "great" apps or you definition of "great" is radically different than mine.

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by kragil on Fri 30th Sep 2011 05:54 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

With all the functionality Konqeror and Nautilus provide I sure as hell count them as great desktop apps. Great apps are apps that you can use all day and that do everything you need. To me that is the only sane definition. Finder and Explorer don't compare IMO.

Edited 2011-09-30 05:56 UTC

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RE: I'll give it a try
by cyrilleberger on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:26 in reply to "I'll give it a try"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

For video editing, we are getting there with kdenlive. Now it is reasonnably stable, the biggest problem remains video encoding, since most distribution cripples ffmpeg to respect the stupid pattents.

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RE: I'll give it a try
by Straho on Fri 30th Sep 2011 09:47 in reply to "I'll give it a try"
Straho Member since:
2011-09-30

I'll try also.
I.My great CLI apps
1.SSH, SCP
2.ranger
3.nano
4.rtorrent
5.ncmpcpp
II.My great GUI apps
1.kate - most advance Linux TE. On windows I use UltraEdit, but trey are different - some feature missed in UE and other missed in kate.
2.Okular - it's not only PDF viewer, I should use a couple windows apps to get that productivity.
3.Amarok, Clementine
4.VLC
5.KJots - great app for note taking, never find something similar for windows.
6.IDE - eclipse, QTCreator, SQLDeveloper, JDeveloper, eric - daily I use at least 2 of them (work or hobby) and they are powerfull and has all feature of modern IDE(atleast all I need)
7.KRunner - it's great. On windows I use Launchy, which is also Linux app.
8.Blender, GIMP, Scribus, digiKam - I never used this for complex work, but this doesn't do them less great.
9.Calibre - I've Kindle, Nook and smartphone with epub reader. They love calibre and calibre love them.
10.k3b
I use real multyuser and virtual desktop capabilities
of Linux.
What I need and found only for windows:
1.XMLSpy - really mature xml editor. I don't like XMLSpy with wine or java based editix enough
2.Toad for Oracle
3.PLSQLDeveloper
What I want in the future:
1.Dolphin - It's good but I need a few missing options.
2.UML, ER Diagram mature application - Umbrello is good, but not great.
Daily I use less than 15 different apps on Linux or Windows. Monthly no more than 30 different.

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by Elv13 on Sun 2nd Oct 2011 17:05 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
Elv13 Member since:
2006-06-12

Umbrello 3 will be OK. But I can't tell how much time it will take us to get there. Expect keyboard friendly usage, docked tools (like MySQL workbench bottom part), documentation parsing, dictionary based documentation auto generation and retro generation. New, modern, canvas, reworked dialogs and much more.

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RE: I'll give it a try
by lucas_maximus on Fri 30th Sep 2011 10:08 in reply to "I'll give it a try"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Most of those apps are available for Windows as well. Linux ONLY

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by Straho on Fri 30th Sep 2011 10:53 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
Straho Member since:
2011-09-30

Why? Because linux community can write portability code. If you could say that app was produce 3 months earlier for windows they I could understand your point. You can't say it's run on windows so it's not linux app. If some application from Linux native is compiled for windows it's needed. When windows app is introduce for linux it's also because it's needed and wanted from many, many linux users.
VirtalBox use .VirtualBox directory in User home dir, so probably it's only linux app, isn't it?

Edited 2011-09-30 10:58 UTC

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by kragil on Fri 30th Sep 2011 11:53 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

*Citation needed. He says nothing about Linux only.

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RE: I'll give it a try
by qbast on Fri 30th Sep 2011 10:34 in reply to "I'll give it a try"
qbast Member since:
2010-02-08

Your list can be divided into four (nonexclusive) groups:
1) Multiplatform applications like thunderbird
2) Basic utilities that have as capable counterparts for Windows: for example gparted
3) Cheap knockoffs used only because they don't cost anything or because there is nothing better for linux: LibreOffice is good example here

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by kragil on Fri 30th Sep 2011 11:57 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
kragil Member since:
2006-01-04

Your list can be divided into four (nonexclusive) groups:
1) Multiplatform applications like thunderbird
2) Basic utilities that have as capable counterparts for Windows: for example gparted
3) Cheap knockoffs used only because they don't cost anything or because there is nothing better for linux: LibreOffice is good example here


1) So?
2) Which as capable counterpart to gparted is *free*?
3) I think MSOffice is bloated unintuitive expensive crap and actually like LibreOffice.
4) ???
??? You said four groups ??? Where is number four? Counting is hard I guess.

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by Straho on Fri 30th Sep 2011 13:16 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
Straho Member since:
2011-09-30

Your list can be divided into four (nonexclusive) groups:
1) Multiplatform applications like thunderbird
2) Basic utilities that have as capable counterparts for Windows: for example gparted
3) Cheap knockoffs used only because they don't cost anything or because there is nothing better for linux: LibreOffice is good example here

1) I can't name more than 10 great windows apps, which aren't multyplatform.
2) You're kidding. GParted support more file systems than Windows. Do you know btrfs, I make tests with Oracle 11g and btrfs.
3) Yeah, I know people talk how power is MSOffice. I don't need something like that. I almost don't use Libre/Open Office, Calligra Office suit, MSOffice or other.

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RE[2]: I'll give it a try
by qbast on Fri 30th Sep 2011 13:36 in reply to "RE: I'll give it a try"
qbast Member since:
2010-02-08

1) So they can hardly be called "linux" applications. The bottom line is that on Windows you can have every good application from linux (or more capable substitute), but not the other way around.
2) Why should it be free?
3) Good for you. At least until you want to send your document to anybody else.
4) Fourth category was basically reworded second, so I removed it.

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