Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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RE[5]: Comment by stabbyjones
by lemur2 on Mon 3rd Oct 2011 00:44 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by stabbyjones"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"In fact, such people might even come on Internet forums and try to justify their expensive choice, perhaps to make them feel better. They might even go so far as to try to insist that a far better value-for-money alternative doesn't exist, when clearly, it does. They might even down-vote others in a kind of semi-irrational state of denial.


Stop acting butthurt.

Windows unlike Linux is an full Operating system. That is what you pay for. You pay for all the work and testing that has gone in to make the whole system reliable (And Windows has been pretty reliable on the desktop since NT 4.0).
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Say what? On what planet?

Windows is notoriously slow & unreliable. There are literally hundreds of millions of broken and/or compromised machines out there. There is an entire industry built on trying to keep the machines running and free of compromise. Even though all that effort and extra expense through that industry clearly doesn't work, ordinary people are still expected to pay for it all.

If your only argument is that Linux is a zero cost Windows clone with a few extra free features,


God no. Linux is nothing like a clone of Windows. Linux is a re-written-from-scratch Unix work-alike. If anything it is closer to OSX, which in turn is derived from BSD.

and people are still choosing To Pay for it (even if you take Windows out of the equation, people are ready to pay for Macs which are far more expensive and have a similar application set to that of Windows out of the box).


Because they are offered nothing else in commercial retail stores.

Then tbh I earn good money, I might as well pay for Windows and I can use most of the GNU alternatives on a Windows system and I can use all the paid for stuff as well.


I am reminded of old wisdom here, encapsulated in the saying: "A fool and his money are soon parted".

Edited 2011-10-03 00:46 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Windows is notoriously slow & unreliable. There are literally hundreds of millions of broken and/or compromised machines out there. There is an entire industry built on trying to keep the machines running and free of compromise. Even though all that effort and extra expense through that industry clearly doesn't work, ordinary people are still expected to pay for it all.


The last time you claimed this ... You actually posted evidence that said that Windows 7 was actually faster than Ubuntu at quite a few find (involving I/O) ... after I point out your error you didn't post after that ... much like you normally do ... you can't admit you are ever wrong ... pretty sad IMO.


Somebody being stupid and installing crap on their pc and not using a Firewall ... is not anything to do with how reliable the OS is ... the weakest link in the chain is the people using it. Which is the exact same argument that people are making when Kernel.org got hacked ...

God no. Linux is nothing like a clone of Windows. Linux is a re-written-from-scratch Unix work-alike. If anything it is closer to OSX, which in turn is derived from BSD.


Why does KDE 3 series default configuration look like Windows XP? and Why does KDE 4 series look like Win Vista/7 and why does Open Office look like Office 2003, Why does all your software look and work like Software for Windows if you hate it soo damn much?

"imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery" ;-)

Because they are offered nothing else in commercial retail stores.


Maybe you know if it was like a "product" rather than a "idea" ... OEMS might consider it.

I am reminded of old wisdom here, encapsulated in the saying: "A fool and his money are soon parted".


You probably don't even donate for something that you rigorously defend.

I am not the fool that was acting butt hurt after he got modded down.

God you bite so easily ... I didn't expect a reply until tomorrow. You know 90% of the time I am trolling the fuck out of you don't you? God I just trolled the whole of OSNEWS (nearly 300 comments now).

I hope David Adams appreciates the extra page views.

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RE[7]: Comment by stabbyjones
by lemur2 on Mon 3rd Oct 2011 22:16 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by stabbyjones"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

The last time you claimed this ... You actually posted evidence that said that Windows 7 was actually faster than Ubuntu at quite a few find (involving I/O)


Excuse me?

I know that for the current versions of Windows 7 and Kubuntu, Kubuntu is quite a bit faster than Windows 7, because I run the both on the same machine for one of my machines.

Laughably, on one occasion Windows 7 took over an hour to boot to a usable desktop. The default browser, IE9, is the next-to-slowest of the pack (I have replaced it with Firefox 7 insofar as it can be removed).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-7-web-browser,3037-17.h...

Windows 7 came with a pathetic default text editor, and an horrendously slow Office Suite that turned out to be adware. Before I could use it comfortably and safely, I had to spend many hours setting up extra security software, removing the lamentable default Office suite offering, and installing Firefox 7, Thunderbird and LibreOffice.

As a user experience of desktop software, Kubuntu 11.04 won hands-down no contest in every comparison.

Edited 2011-10-03 22:22 UTC

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