Linked by David Adams on Thu 29th Sep 2011 23:47 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Linux Linux is struggling on the desktop because it only has a small number of "great" apps, according to the Gnome co-creator. Miguel de Icaza, co-creator of the Gnome desktop, told tech journalist Tim Anderson at the recent Windows 8 Build conference "When you count how many great desktop apps there are on Linux, you can probably name 10," de Icaza said, according to a post on Anderson's IT Writing blog. "You work really hard, you can probably name 20. We've managed to p*** off developers every step of the way, breaking APIs all the time."
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RE[6]: Comment by stabbyjones
by lucas_maximus on Mon 3rd Oct 2011 01:12 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by stabbyjones"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

Windows is notoriously slow & unreliable. There are literally hundreds of millions of broken and/or compromised machines out there. There is an entire industry built on trying to keep the machines running and free of compromise. Even though all that effort and extra expense through that industry clearly doesn't work, ordinary people are still expected to pay for it all.


The last time you claimed this ... You actually posted evidence that said that Windows 7 was actually faster than Ubuntu at quite a few find (involving I/O) ... after I point out your error you didn't post after that ... much like you normally do ... you can't admit you are ever wrong ... pretty sad IMO.


Somebody being stupid and installing crap on their pc and not using a Firewall ... is not anything to do with how reliable the OS is ... the weakest link in the chain is the people using it. Which is the exact same argument that people are making when Kernel.org got hacked ...

God no. Linux is nothing like a clone of Windows. Linux is a re-written-from-scratch Unix work-alike. If anything it is closer to OSX, which in turn is derived from BSD.


Why does KDE 3 series default configuration look like Windows XP? and Why does KDE 4 series look like Win Vista/7 and why does Open Office look like Office 2003, Why does all your software look and work like Software for Windows if you hate it soo damn much?

"imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery" ;-)

Because they are offered nothing else in commercial retail stores.


Maybe you know if it was like a "product" rather than a "idea" ... OEMS might consider it.

I am reminded of old wisdom here, encapsulated in the saying: "A fool and his money are soon parted".


You probably don't even donate for something that you rigorously defend.

I am not the fool that was acting butt hurt after he got modded down.

God you bite so easily ... I didn't expect a reply until tomorrow. You know 90% of the time I am trolling the fuck out of you don't you? God I just trolled the whole of OSNEWS (nearly 300 comments now).

I hope David Adams appreciates the extra page views.

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RE[7]: Comment by stabbyjones
by lemur2 on Mon 3rd Oct 2011 22:16 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by stabbyjones"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

The last time you claimed this ... You actually posted evidence that said that Windows 7 was actually faster than Ubuntu at quite a few find (involving I/O)


Excuse me?

I know that for the current versions of Windows 7 and Kubuntu, Kubuntu is quite a bit faster than Windows 7, because I run the both on the same machine for one of my machines.

Laughably, on one occasion Windows 7 took over an hour to boot to a usable desktop. The default browser, IE9, is the next-to-slowest of the pack (I have replaced it with Firefox 7 insofar as it can be removed).

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-7-web-browser,3037-17.h...

Windows 7 came with a pathetic default text editor, and an horrendously slow Office Suite that turned out to be adware. Before I could use it comfortably and safely, I had to spend many hours setting up extra security software, removing the lamentable default Office suite offering, and installing Firefox 7, Thunderbird and LibreOffice.

As a user experience of desktop software, Kubuntu 11.04 won hands-down no contest in every comparison.

Edited 2011-10-03 22:22 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Excuse me?


Was a while ago ... but you ignored me once I pointed out you were wrong. Like you always do. Because you are too zealous to face facts.

Ubuntu 9.04 in the Link was actually slower than the Win 7 Beta (yes Beta ...).

I can't be bothered to find the post ... it was a while ago now.

I know that for the current versions of Windows 7 and Kubuntu, Kubuntu is quite a bit faster than Windows 7, because I run the both on the same machine for one of my machines.


You run Windows 7 on a horrendously slow machine. My cellphone is faster than your laptop.

When it comes to decent kit ... Windows 7 is faster than XP on new hardware.

Laughably, on one occasion Windows 7 took over an hour to boot to a usable desktop. The default browser, IE9, is the next-to-slowest of the pack (I have replaced it with Firefox 7 insofar as it can be removed).


Well I don't run a crapware laden version of Windows 7. I have a laptop from 2006 with a 1.2ghz processor and 1gb of ram ... and it boots up in 30 seconds.

Also I simply don't believe you, P3 from 1998 booting Win7 in a few minutes ... running latest chrome at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwa7vsyQw7o

Sorry comparing your obviously crapware laden piece of shit Win7 laptop to kubuntu isn't fair.



Browsers are soo fast now ... It honestly doesn't matter if you use any of the new browsers they are all fast.

Internet Explorer 9 is actually pretty decent from a reliablility point of view. I have odd crashes with the new Firefox and Chrome while using the web inspectors.

Windows 7 came with a pathetic default text editor


Yeah because that is all that matters </sarcasm> ... you know you can put "open Source Windows text editor" into google and find many decent websites.

The point is stupid. Win7 is a a whole OS.

You know there is GVIM, Notepad++, NotePad2, JEdit, Emacs (apparently there is a build of emacs for Windows ... promoting the use of a non-free OS very hypocritical by FSF.org) ... those are just off the top of my head.

and an horrendously slow Office Suite that turned out to be adware.


Don't buy crapware laden laptops ... I don't.

Before I could use it comfortably and safely, I had to spend many hours setting up extra security software, removing the lamentable default Office suite offering, and installing Firefox 7, Thunderbird and LibreOffice.


Again not my fault you bought a crap ware laden laptop.

I bought my dell by a local reseller that gave me a vanilla Windows install ... I had no such problems.

If you got a bad deal because you didn't do your research before that is your fault and not Microsoft's.

As a user experience of desktop software, Kubuntu 11.04 won hands-down no contest in every comparison


You are a zealot, you would have found a way to find yourself at that conclusion anyway.

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