Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 4th Oct 2011 19:03 UTC
Apple I'm down with the flu at the moment, so I wasn't really looking forward to doing a detailed write-up of all the awesome stuff Apple was going to show off today. So, Tim Cook, thanks for talking about nothing for almost two hours straight. The only mildly interesting thing is a slightly specbumped iPhone 4, dubbed the iPhone 4S, which has a faster processor and graphics chip, better camera, and a few other improvements here and there to bring it in line with Android phones launched earlier this year. Sadly, Apple insists on the teeny tiny 3.5" screen, which is too small even for my girly fingers (I'm not kidding, I have to buy gloves in women's clothing stores). For the rest, it was a long rundown of iOS5 features we already knew, and improvements to voice recognition - which is something WP7, Android, and every other self-respecting mobile operating system does already anyway. They do claim it will sport a more natural feel to it, but only time will tell how well it'll work outside of pre-recorded and widely tested on-stage demos.
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RE[4]: People are disappointed
by kristoph on Tue 4th Oct 2011 21:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: People are disappointed"
kristoph
Member since:
2006-01-01

I do agree that the WP7 interface is the best of the bunch. Lots of people like the simplicity of the iOS screen (it's dead simple) but I personally prefer the live tile metaphor of Windows.

I disagree on the screen size. I don't have any problems typing and I would actually prefer my smart phone to be a bit smaller rather than bigger. I very much hope Apple does not go bigger in the future (or at least offers it as an option).

That Galaxy S2 your buying has a dual core 1ghz chip and that's the Samsung flagship so you think that's outdated too or is just about the screen ;-)

I don't actually know what RAM the iPhone 4S has but it's not an apples to apples comparison. If you've ever done ANY development on Android you know that memory is a huge/huge problem. We had to jump all sorts of hoops to handle image manipulation functions even on the S2 where the same operations worked 'out of the box' on a 3GS. That's why Android devices pack more RAM in there; they need it.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

No, the SII has either 1.2 ghz dc or 1.5 ghz dc.

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kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

mea-culpa; when I get the iPhone 4S I'll do a side by side, it would be interesting to see the performance

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RE[5]: People are disappointed
by Beta on Tue 4th Oct 2011 23:12 in reply to "RE[4]: People are disappointed"
Beta Member since:
2005-07-06

That Galaxy S2 your buying has a dual core 1ghz chip and that's the Samsung flagship so you think that's outdated too or is just about the screen ;-)


I think the S2 is outdated, its been kicking around for more than half a year now. There’s a new Nexus coming, and well, it sounds like it’ll have a 720p screen. yummy.

That's why Android devices pack more RAM in there; they need it.

Because they have true multi‐tasking, you’re right!

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kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

Because they have true multi‐tasking, you’re right!


Actually it's just because memory management in Android is poor in various frameworks, especially in the imaging stuff. But as I said this should be fixed in 3.1.

'True multitasking' in Android is not really practical. If you do anything in the background that is CPU intensive or network intensive it kills the battery so you can only do very specific stuff which you can do in iOS.

I appreciate it's a philosophical thing. Apple does not let developers do it because they don't want a poor experience for a user. Google is all about doing whatever the heck you want and if people get a bad experience then it's their fault for installing bad stuff. Both points have their merits.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

If you want access to more memory, you use off-heap memory(in short, don't use Java heap for big image manipulation because it has a hard limit). And iOS is not without it's problems either.
In addition, Android has more processes actually running concurrently.

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Dryhte Member since:
2008-02-05

I also disagree on the screen size. 3,5" is not tiny at all, I currently have a phone with a 3,2" screen (LG P500 Optimus One) and am contemplating buying the SE Xperia Mini Pro (3" and physical keyboard).

If I can live with the 3,2", and the millions of users worldwide can as well, small is still a valid option for smartphones.

Of course, that might mean that on Android, smaller screens are still usable and on iOS they aren't ;)

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