Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 6th Oct 2011 00:02 UTC
Apple On its website, Apple has just confirmed that its co-founder and former CEO, Steve Jobs, has passed away at age 56. After bringing the company back from the brink of bankruptcy and turning it into one of the world's most succesful technology companies, Jobs lost the battle with pancreatic cancer.
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Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 6th Oct 2011 04:47 UTC
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

As you can see, I just threw down the mod hammer.

Guys and girls, please remember the following Dutch saying: over de doden niets dan goed ("concerning the dead, nothing but good"). We'll get to discuss any possible negative things in what I'm sure will be countless future items about Jobs. You don't use this item for that.

Tanks.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Morgan on Thu 6th Oct 2011 05:14 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Thank you for that. The trolling is already strong on several mainstream news chat boards. I think it's fitting we should use this particular outlet to honor his memory.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Soulbender on Thu 6th Oct 2011 05:39 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"concerning the dead, nothing but good"


I generally disagree with this but it's not like Jobs was a Jeffrey Dahmer or Pol Pot or anything so...yeah. Keep you negativity (and religion. sheesh) to yourselves for once.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by sorpigal on Thu 6th Oct 2011 12:45 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

I strongly disagree. Today is no different from yesterday. While those close to him probably don't want to hear anny negatives, they are also not obliged to (or likely to) troll comments on stories like this... at least not today. Proximity to death does not change facts or opinions. If he was an asshole while alive he's still an asshole.

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by leech on Thu 6th Oct 2011 14:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

I strongly disagree. Today is no different from yesterday. While those close to him probably don't want to hear anny negatives, they are also not obliged to (or likely to) troll comments on stories like this... at least not today. Proximity to death does not change facts or opinions. If he was an asshole while alive he's still an asshole.


I strongly agree with your disagreement! Hail Eris!

I've never understood how someone can be such an utter (enter expletive here) and yet when they go on to meet their maker, in whatever form that takes, suddenly their farts smell like the sex sweat of a super model. I really hope when I kick the bucket, that people will shout honestly how they felt about me, so I know which ones to haunt!

You think I was an asshole in life, wait 'til I have freaky ghost powers!

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twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

I strongly disagree. Today is no different from yesterday. While those close to him probably don't want to hear anny negatives, they are also not obliged to (or likely to) troll comments on stories like this... at least not today. Proximity to death does not change facts or opinions. If he was an asshole while alive he's still an asshole.


Yes, indeed. And while I didn't like Jobs, this was regarding him as Apple's CEO because I din't like many things Apple as a company has done under his command. This however doesn't mean that the person, the human being Steve Jobs was an asshole. He might have been or he might have not.

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sithlord2 Member since:
2009-04-02

I strongly disagree. Today is no different from yesterday. While those close to him probably don't want to hear anny negatives, they are also not obliged to (or likely to) troll comments on stories like this... at least not today. Proximity to death does not change facts or opinions. If he was an asshole while alive he's still an asshole.


The issue is, dead people can't defend themselves...

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RE[2]: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by Morgan on Fri 7th Oct 2011 10:05 in reply to "RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I'm sure, like many other highly influential people before him, his legacy will go through waves of respect and derision throughout the years to come. I do agree he had a reputation as a harsh and difficult to like guy on a personal level, especially to those within his sphere of innovation and productivity. There are countless anecdotes regarding his temper and arrogance towards those who missed living up to his impossibly high standards.

But that doesn't change the fact that he was a brilliant and enlightened person as well. He saw the world in a way that most of us never will, and I personally can look beyond the tantrums and see that the better qualities greatly outweighed the bad ones.

In short, he was human therefore subject to flawed emotions and reactions, just like any of us. As I never knew him personally, I choose to remember the great works he accomplished, just as I do regarding past innovators and geniuses, assholes though they may have been on a personal level.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

I strongly disagree. Today is no different from yesterday.


It is to the Jobs family and friends. Or do you have no compassion?

While those close to him probably don't want to hear anny negatives, they are also not obliged to (or likely to) troll comments on stories like this...


Troll is a very subjective term. Care to define it? I think it cuts both ways - some could argue your mirror holds the image of a classic troll.

Proximity to death does not change facts or opinions.


Being a member of the human race, rather than an animal, pretty much does mean that most people - love or hate Jobs, have at least some decency and respect.

If he was an asshole while alive he's still an asshole.


Exactly. But being cruel for the sake of making yourself feel self important, well that speaks greater volumes. Lacking compassion and moral fibre, well.. maybe we'll laugh like this when you die - oh wait, you'll never have amounted to anything, so no one will know you are dead... shucks, well I'll laugh now just so that I don't accidentally miss your demise, you heartless bastard. Oh, and as the cap fits, I suggest you don't bump you giant asshat on the way out.

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RE: Comment by Thom_Holwerda
by twitterfire on Thu 6th Oct 2011 21:29 in reply to "Comment by Thom_Holwerda"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

As you can see, I just threw down the mod hammer.

Guys and girls, please remember the following Dutch saying: over de doden niets dan goed ("concerning the dead, nothing but good").


Actually it is a Latin saying: "De mortuis nil nisi bonum." and it is an apothegm pertaining to Chilon of Sparta.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

"Guys and girls, please remember the following Dutch saying: over de doden niets dan goed ("concerning the dead, nothing but good").


Actually it is a Latin saying: "De mortuis nil nisi bonum." and it is an apothegm pertaining to Chilon of Sparta.
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The English saying, directly linked to the Latin, is "Never speak ill of the dead". "Ill" being used in the original meaning of the word as "bad" rather than the modern sense of "sick".

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