Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Oct 2011 20:36 UTC, submitted by zizban
BeOS & Derivatives Oh gosh, finally news that's got nothing to do with patents or smartphones or the comparing of male sexual organs. Haiku news! Michael Lotz has added preliminary support for WPA to Haiku, taking the first steps towards making the Haiku wireless stack a lot more useful.
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RE[6]: Comment by peteo
by KLU9 on Thu 6th Oct 2011 14:33 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by peteo"
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""It doesn't ship with every PC, even some major manufacturers like Dell and HP offer Linux preinstalled or even a bare hard driver."


Are you implying that what I said isn't true? Or just a hysterical laughing fit for no reason? Either way, visit those manufacturers' websites and you will see several models with the option to preinstall Linux or FreeDOS.

I think... well forget what I assume about peteo's opinion and give my own. Your comment saying Windows doesn't come on *all* PCs is a bit like the person who protested about one of Samuel Johnson's generalizations.

Johnson: "There are no trees in Scotland."
Aggrieved Scot: "Yes there are! There's one not five miles from where I live."

The exceptionality of the riposte essentially supports the original generalization.

An ordinary consumer would probably never purchase a non-Apple PC that doesn't include a copy of Windows. They would have to:
a) know it was possible
b) care about the issue
c) actively decide they don't want Windows on their computer, and that they'll be satisfied with FreeDOS, Linux or installing an OS themselves
d) then search high and low for one

I might meet all those requirements. You might. A company's IT dept might. But 99% of the PC-buying public don't or won't. Which doesn't bode very well for a *consumer*-oriented home computer operating system.

Still I wish Haiku all the best and look forward to a 1.0 (or more likely for me, a 1.1) release.

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RE[7]: Comment by peteo
by Morgan on Thu 6th Oct 2011 18:25 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by peteo"
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Well, the guy made an absolute statement "every PC ships with Windows" and I was simply rebutting that. Absolutes are dangerous things in discussions, especially when they aren't true (which is most of the time).

Also, going with your anecdote we are all Scots here. We all pretty much know where to look for license-free PCs, and many of us build our own. The average consumer isn't likely to blindly wander into a Haiku discussion thread; using such a statement about Windows and PCs reeked of strawman tactics.

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