Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Oct 2011 21:33 UTC, submitted by mahmudinashar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ah, it's that time of the year again. We already had this up on the sidebar, but I figured we'd turn it into a proper front page item - mostly because I want to discuss the move by the Ubuntu team to no longer install GNOME 2 as the 'classic' desktop option - which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come). There's more to this than just that, of course, so those of you who do like Unity still have enough reason to upgrade.
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RE[3]: @Thom
by lemur2 on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:47 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: @Thom"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

Huh? What are you talking about?


KDE SC 4.6.x or 4.7.x, which comes with the most recent Linux distributions, is perfectly stable and well performed. It is fast, slick and powerful. It is the most advanced desktop software platform available.

What are YOU talking about?

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RE[4]: @Thom
by Hiev on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:54 in reply to "RE[3]: @Thom"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

Geezz, do you have to contaminate every subject with your lame KDE propaganda? yes, we all have used KDE and we know its current state you want to live in denial? is ok, its your problem, but stop the enless discutions about it.

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RE[5]: @Thom
by lemur2 on Thu 13th Oct 2011 23:18 in reply to "RE[4]: @Thom"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Geezz, do you have to contaminate every subject with your lame KDE propaganda? yes, we all have used KDE and we know its current state you want to live in denial? is ok, its your problem, but stop the enless discutions about it.


FTA:
which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come).


FTA:
I've decided to make the jump to KDE 4 (any distribution suggestions? Debian-based please!).


I am on-topic. Your post is the contamination in this thread.

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RE[4]: @Thom
by dylansmrjones on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:57 in reply to "RE[3]: @Thom"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

"Huh? What are you talking about?


KDE SC 4.6.x or 4.7.x, which comes with the most recent Linux distributions, is perfectly stable and well performed. It is fast, slick and powerful. It is the most advanced desktop software platform available.

What are YOU talking about?
"
Lay down the kool-aid please and be rational about this.

Neither PC-BSD nor KDE4 in gentoo have been overwhelmingly solid. It is overall really nice but with annoying drawbacks. Applications launch slower than similar gtk+-apps, there are odd drawing artifacts when switching from one desktop to another, or opening/closening windows (this is possibly an issue with my ATI card and proprietary drivers), and the nepomuk-stuff keeps crashing and returns no useful information. This might be related to kde4.6 in gentoo rather than anything else, since the kde4.6 is only partially 4.6 and partially 4.4 (kdepim).

KDE4 is slick and powerful, definitely. It is very sexy - but it is not fast, and it is resource hungry much more than Gnome 2.32. I don't know about Gnome 3 because I'll never use that. Gnome 3 was the reason why I changed my use flags to allow for a KDE-installation. KDE4 was the reason why I changed the use flags back.

I'm not totally buying the stuff about "most advanced desktop software platform", but it is not entirely inaccurate. It is like a fantastic feast meal, but also undercooked. I'm looking very forward to KDE4 in another two years. It is very promising.

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RE[5]: @Thom
by Dasher42 on Thu 13th Oct 2011 23:02 in reply to "RE[4]: @Thom"
Dasher42 Member since:
2007-04-05

Judging a DE exclusively on an experience in Gentoo doesn't seem fair to me. You're tweaking and tuning in an individual way, and if something isn't working, Gentoo lets you have all kinds of configurations that might not work quite so well. All that configurability comes at a price: you're likely to be running a unique and somewhat broken configuration if you're building such large software repositories and changing things midway.

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RE[5]: @Thom
by lemur2 on Thu 13th Oct 2011 23:11 in reply to "RE[4]: @Thom"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

"KDE SC 4.6.x or 4.7.x, which comes with the most recent Linux distributions, is perfectly stable and well performed. It is fast, slick and powerful. It is the most advanced desktop software platform available. What are YOU talking about?
Lay down the kool-aid please and be rational about this. Neither PC-BSD nor KDE4 in gentoo have been overwhelmingly solid. It is overall really nice but with annoying drawbacks. Applications launch slower than similar gtk+-apps, there are odd drawing artifacts when switching from one desktop to another, or opening/closening windows (this is possibly an issue with my ATI card and proprietary drivers), and the nepomuk-stuff keeps crashing and returns no useful information. This might be related to kde4.6 in gentoo rather than anything else, since the kde4.6 is only partially 4.6 and partially 4.4 (kdepim). KDE4 is slick and powerful, definitely. It is very sexy - but it is not fast, and it is resource hungry much more than Gnome 2.32. I don't know about Gnome 3 because I'll never use that. Gnome 3 was the reason why I changed my use flags to allow for a KDE-installation. KDE4 was the reason why I changed the use flags back. I'm not totally buying the stuff about "most advanced desktop software platform", but it is not entirely inaccurate. It is like a fantastic feast meal, but also undercooked. I'm looking very forward to KDE4 in another two years. It is very promising. "

I am being perfectly rational about this.

None of your reported performance or stability issues occur on any of the many KDE installations I have done, and I have done quite a few, over a wide range of Intel/Intel and AMD/ATI hardware.

If KDE4 itself were the issue, then it would be an issue for everyone, and I too would have seen such issues. You are ascribing to KDE4 issues which have nothing to do with KDE4. You are at least two years behind the curve.

I do have a highly recommended tip ... don't use proprietary drivers, especially for ATI cards.

If you prefer "close to the metal" distributions, then Arch Linux (with open source graphics drivers) is quite nice with KDE4.

Edited 2011-10-13 23:20 UTC

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RE[4]: @Thom
by dragossh on Thu 13th Oct 2011 22:57 in reply to "RE[3]: @Thom"
dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16

This changes everything.

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RE[4]: @Thom
by snorkel2 on Sat 15th Oct 2011 22:04 in reply to "RE[3]: @Thom"
snorkel2 Member since:
2007-03-06

I totally agree, I am running the latest 4.7.1 I believe and it is fast! and stable. I am running it on Chakra Linux which is Arch linux based and super slick.

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