Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Oct 2011 21:33 UTC, submitted by mahmudinashar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ah, it's that time of the year again. We already had this up on the sidebar, but I figured we'd turn it into a proper front page item - mostly because I want to discuss the move by the Ubuntu team to no longer install GNOME 2 as the 'classic' desktop option - which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come). There's more to this than just that, of course, so those of you who do like Unity still have enough reason to upgrade.
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RE[4]: Sigh...
by saynte on Mon 17th Oct 2011 05:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Sigh..."
saynte
Member since:
2007-12-10

Do you believe that kernel drivers and hardware have something to do with the crash dialog crashing?

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RE[5]: Sigh...
by lemur2 on Mon 17th Oct 2011 09:52 in reply to "RE[4]: Sigh..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Do you believe that kernel drivers and hardware have something to do with the crash dialog crashing?


I don't know, I've never seen it crash on KDE4.

Presumably something caused a crash to bring up a crash dialog in the first place. Whatever bug that was, it could easily explain a subsequent crash of the crash dialog as well.

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RE[6]: Sigh...
by saynte on Mon 17th Oct 2011 10:34 in reply to "RE[5]: Sigh..."
saynte Member since:
2007-12-10

That is possible, of course, that the crash triggered some fundamental bug somewhere lower in the stack. However, usually the blame should work top-down, not bottom-up.

If kMail happens to crash, do you immediately file a bug against the kernel, or let Intel/AMD they have a bug in their CPU? Of course not, you first blame kMail, then if the maintainer can show that it's somewhere in a library he/she passes down the stack so it can be fixed.

Thom (quite likely) found a few bugs in KDE, denying this won't help anything.

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RE[6]: Sigh...
by aaronb on Mon 17th Oct 2011 20:02 in reply to "RE[5]: Sigh..."
aaronb Member since:
2005-07-06

You are reading a techie website yet you seem to have little understanding of what could make software unstable.

The problem with trying to force your opinions on others is additional frustration as now not only do they have to work through issues with KDE they also have to put up with people repeatedly saying "Well it works fine here so you must be wrong".

At best you could encourage people who are having issues to raise a bug report and if many people chime in with evidence of the problem it will probably be confirmed and then fixed.

At worst (what you are currently doing) is just denying the possibility that although something works for you it may not work for others.

For example, it is not a good idea for people who do not have type 1 diabetes to inject insulin just before or after meals, but injecting insulin can work great for people who do have type 1 diabetes.

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