Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Oct 2011 21:33 UTC, submitted by mahmudinashar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ah, it's that time of the year again. We already had this up on the sidebar, but I figured we'd turn it into a proper front page item - mostly because I want to discuss the move by the Ubuntu team to no longer install GNOME 2 as the 'classic' desktop option - which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come). There's more to this than just that, of course, so those of you who do like Unity still have enough reason to upgrade.
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RE[7]: Sigh...
by lemur2 on Tue 18th Oct 2011 00:15 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Sigh..."
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You are reading a techie website yet you seem to have little understanding of what could make software unstable. The problem with trying to force your opinions on others is additional frustration as now not only do they have to work through issues with KDE they also have to put up with people repeatedly saying "Well it works fine here so you must be wrong". At best you could encourage people who are having issues to raise a bug report and if many people chime in with evidence of the problem it will probably be confirmed and then fixed. At worst (what you are currently doing) is just denying the possibility that although something works for you it may not work for others.

BTW, on my Acer Aspire One 522 netbook, I experienced this bug for Kubuntu Oneiric:

I have downloaded the Ubuntu 11.10 install/LiveCD from " and created a USB stick for install (with the option of no extra space for persistent files selected). I then tried to run the LiveCD on an Acer AO522 (netbook with AMD C50 dual core processor).
If I do *not* connect the wired ethernet the netbook freezes when during the boot the system is trying to use the wireless card to access the internet. If I have the wired ethernet connected to the internet, the install *does not* freeze.

Even though this bug freezes the netbook when I try to use the BCM4313 wifi via the KDE4 network manager, I do not blame KDE4 for this.

It truns out that the problem is actually with the unstable Kernel module "atl1c", which is the driver for the wired ethernet. I used the wired ethernet during the install (via the LiveCD, or in the case of my netbook, the LiveUSB), and once I had Oneiric installed, I blacklisted the ethernet driver atl1c because I normally use the wifi.

I will monitor progress of this bug. In time it will get fixed, and I will then un-blacklist the atl1c driver.

What I won't do is go on internet forums and complain loudly that the KDE4 wifi manager is broken.

Edited 2011-10-18 00:18 UTC

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