Linked by David Adams on Mon 17th Oct 2011 17:29 UTC, submitted by Debjit
Windows Well, its not official yet, but Microsoft's Windows 7 has now become the most widely used operating system. . . Windows 7 now has a strong 40.21% share of all desktop operating systems around the world whereas, the usage share of Windows XP has slipped to 38.64%. All this happened a couple of days back (in October). The rise in usage of Windows 7 and the drop in usage of Windows XP has been consistent since the time Windows 7 was first launched.
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Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Tue 18th Oct 2011 16:24 UTC
ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

PC gaming is huge, to say it's not is simply ignorant.

The Windows OS is not nearly as "bad" and "non-stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.

The Linux OS is not nearly as "good" and "stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.

Windows is a perfectly fine OS for the average user. Familiarity, vast support, low learning curve all help.

Nobody should be surprised Windows is the dominant OS -- not because of some secret conspiracy against Linux, but simply because it's a great OS for the average user. And the average user is what makes up the majority.

I'm a daily user of both Windows & Linux, and have been for many years. Linux does great in a few specific areas but as a desktop for the average user I find it to be crap most of the time due to constant breakage/incompatibilities and introduction of new bugs.

Linux users, I am one of you half the time so spare me your rhetoric and propaganda -- I know better.

An OS is just like any other tool. You pick the one that best suits your needs. There isn't a single OS that is blatantly better in all areas and for all users.

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RE: Comment by ilovebeer
by No it isnt on Tue 18th Oct 2011 17:37 in reply to "Comment by ilovebeer"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Who are those Linux users you talk about? As a Linux user myself, I'm fairly impressed with Win7. Fanboys of all colours will of course slander the competion, which sort of answers my question as to why you choose to slander Linux users.

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Tue 18th Oct 2011 18:08 in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Who are those Linux users you talk about? As a Linux user myself, I'm fairly impressed with Win7. Fanboys of all colours will of course slander the competion, which sort of answers my question as to why you choose to slander Linux users.

Any Linux user who fits the description... Obviously my comments wouldn't apply to level headed and reasonable Linux users.

Also, I haven't said anything slanderous. I simply posted a few opinions based on observation.

Lastly, you implying I am some sort of Windows "fanboy" is a bit silly considering I use Linux half the time, by choice. And by the way, Linux isn't remotely close to being Windows competition, at least in the desktop market.

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by kaiwai on Tue 18th Oct 2011 21:06 in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Who are those Linux users you talk about? As a Linux user myself, I'm fairly impressed with Win7. Fanboys of all colours will of course slander the competion, which sort of answers my question as to why you choose to slander Linux users.


Agreed. I would argue though that my experience tends to lean to the bias that Linux fanboys critique of Windows tends to be a lot more sophisticated when it comes to the technical aspects when compared to the Mac fanboy base. I've hung around in the two major bastions of Mac fanboys (Macrumors and Apple Insider) and they really pale in comparison to the kinds of arguments that used to take place on comp.os.linux.advocacy (COLA) back in my younger years. Were there uneducated fanboys on COLA? sure there were but they paled in significance when compared to the debates that would knuckle down into the nuances on how each of the kernels handled threads or how one development model allowed for faster technology adoption.

I'm all for a good debate but I tend to find that the discussions on forums these days tends to have the centre of gravity move towards the intellectual lightweight topics than really addressing the hard issues. OSNews around 5-7 years ago used to have some really good contributors - there was a great article that regarding FreeBSD, an ongoing debate between a person who works in the Windows market and a Solaris engineer/admin/programmer regarding scalability etc. Oh how I long for such discussions again on this website but I fear that such will never come back here again.

Edited 2011-10-18 21:09 UTC

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RE: Comment by ilovebeer
by Soulbender on Tue 18th Oct 2011 19:04 in reply to "Comment by ilovebeer"
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2005-08-18

PC gaming is huge, to say it's not is simply ignorant.


I don't think anyone with a clue would say it's not. Heck, gaming is the one and only reason I even have XP still installed (sure sure, wine works but not always).

The Windows OS is not nearly as "bad" and "non-stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.


I don't know who's saying this. Windows been pretty stable since w2k and even more so in XP. Still not as stable as *nix, especially not on the server side, but not nearly has horrid as it used to be.

The Linux OS is not nearly as "good" and "stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.


Depends what your metric for "good" is. It sure is stable though.

Nobody should be surprised Windows is the dominant OS


I'm not suprised but I'm not surpised Lady Gaga is popular either.

not because of some secret conspiracy against Linux, but simply because it's a great OS for the average user.


Are you sure massive marketing and and a serious OEM foothold has nothing to do with it?

There isn't a single OS that is blatantly better in all areas and for all users.


Agreed.

Edited 2011-10-18 19:05 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by ilovebeer
by ilovebeer on Tue 18th Oct 2011 21:41 in reply to "RE: Comment by ilovebeer"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

"The Windows OS is not nearly as "bad" and "non-stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.


I don't know who's saying this. Windows been pretty stable since w2k and even more so in XP. Still not as stable as *nix, especially not on the server side, but not nearly has horrid as it used to be.
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The level-headed Linux users aren't saying it, but the Linux fanboys still are. I assume because admitting Microsoft has released anything worthwhile, stable, and usable is too much of a painful reality.


"The Linux OS is not nearly as "good" and "stable" as Linux users are constantly saying.

Depends what your metric for "good" is. It sure is stable though.
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Good point about "good". I disagree completely about the stable part however and will give an example. I use Linux for an htpc taking advantage of Nvidia's VDPAU. It's been completely stable for me. However, I know several people who have had horrible stability problems with the same setup, and some even with the same hardware (although different Linux distros). I also know plenty of people who deal with software breakage on a constant basis after "upgrading" their packages.

Linux stability is very dependent on what exactly you're using the box for, which software you've installed, which distro you use, and how often you "upgrade" anything.

"Nobody should be surprised Windows is the dominant OS

I'm not suprised but I'm not surpised Lady Gaga is popular either.
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Are you not surprised Lady Gaga is popular because she has talent, has mass appeal, or because you believe millions of people have been brainwashed into thinking she's a good artist?

Regarding Windows, ...maybe part of the reason it's so popular is because it's actually earned it by being a useful and "good" desktop to it's users.

"not because of some secret conspiracy against Linux, but simply because it's a great OS for the average user.

Are you sure massive marketing and and a serious OEM foothold has nothing to do with it?
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I'm sure it does have an affect.. However, I'm also sure it's much smaller than the conspiracy theorists would like you to believe.

Linux and Microsoft is not David and Goliath. Linux has a ways to go before it can call itself David.

At the end of the day, if Windows suits your needs best, use it. If Linux suits your needs best, use it. I don't see why that's such a hard concept for some people to accept. I personally don't and won't pledge allegiance to any OS. I will, and will continue, to use what works best for me, for the task at hand. If that means using multiple OS's, and it does in my case, then that's what I'll do.

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RE: Comment by ilovebeer
by Neolander on Tue 18th Oct 2011 19:05 in reply to "Comment by ilovebeer"
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2010-03-08

Let's be honest : all current desktop OSs suck in some critical areas. This is why lots of computer geeks keep switching desktop OSs out of insatisfaction, and why this whole "post PC" thing is irritating to many instead of just being laughable.

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