Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Oct 2011 21:02 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless What many of us wondered the moment Research In Motion announced the PlayBook's QNX-based operating system has now transpired: the Canadian smartphone and tablet company has announced BBX, their QNX-based operating system for both smartphones and tablets - in other words, the expansion of the PlayBook operating system into smartphones.
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by Moochman on Wed 19th Oct 2011 04:39 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
Moochman
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2005-07-06

Mod parent up. If BB delivers, there's no reason to think they don't have a chance. The market is still young. Don't forget, the iPhone entered the scene and everyone laughed at them and said they had no chance against Symbian. Look at them now.

Never underestimate the power of a little persistence and deep pockets. I think Microsoft and Apple have both demonstrated this very well over the years. It could equally well apply to BlackBerry.

And by the way, Thom--"nothing exciting" in those videos?? Are you serious??? That was some pretty awesome eye candy if you ask me, and I've seen nothing like it on Android.

Edited 2011-10-19 04:42 UTC

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by phoenix on Wed 19th Oct 2011 20:38 in reply to "RE[3]: ..."
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2005-07-11

RIM is missing a couple things that apple had:
- strong leadership at the top, that had a vision of where they wanted to go, and the balls to move the entire company in that direction
- the developers to make the vision a reality without getting sidetracked into 16 different ways of doing the same thing (do they really need all those runtimes?)
- the engineers to develop, and optimise, hardware to run that software

RIM needs someone to stand up and say "this is what we want; this is where we want to go; this is how we are going to get there", and then actually DO IT!

They have all the pieces needed. But they are going off in so many different directions (touchscreen, slider, keyboard; BBOS6, BBOS7, PlayBook OS, BBX; all the different runtimes and dev environments; BIS, BES, BESx; phones, tablets; consumer, business; etc) releasing so many half-baked devices, that they are floundering. It's like having a square boat with people paddling on all four sides, in different directions, next to a whirlpool: they're going nowhere fast, and going to be sucked down and wrecked.

It's sad to see another Canadian juggernaut crumble. ;) Here's hoping a visionary rises up and topples the current board/CEOs.

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by Moochman on Fri 21st Oct 2011 03:28 in reply to "RE[4]: ..."
Moochman Member since:
2005-07-06

I think you're exaggerating things just a bit, no? The PlayBook was half-baked, it's true, but they are remedying that with new E-mail, Calendar, etc. clients and now it's shaping up to be quite a nice device. As for the multitude of form factors, I don't hear anyone complaining about other manufacturers doing this. You are basically asking them to become Apple, with "one model" is that it? This is just blind to the fact that BlackBerry in particular is popular *precisely because* of the form factors they offer (god knows it's not the modernity of the OS).

As for OS 7, they've already said it's the last version. From here on out all development efforts are going towards BBX.

As for consumer/business, the whole industry is moving towards the idea of "one device". Nothing wrong with following the trend.

As for the runtimes, keep in mind that the effort needed for the Android and AIR runtimes is basically nothing, because neither one is developed in-house. AIR was important because it was there from the get-go as a stop-gap solution that let them come to market with the PlayBook more rapidly than anyone thought possible. In terms of actual in-house development, it's WebWorks and Native--and if you watch the presentation, you'll see that they are really starting to emphasize those two and deemphasize everything else.

Keep in mind that Android also has 4 runtimes, if you count Adobe AIR and Google Web Toolkit.

Really, I don't see how throwing out the board and CEO is going to help things. Haven't we learned anything from the similar actions that recently took place at Nokia and HP? Mike Lazaridis lacks charisma, true, but he still seems to be the heart and soul of the company--take him away and the ship will sink much quicker, I guarantee it.

It actually seems clearer than ever to me that they know what they're doing for once, and the last thing they need is some boardroom politics to #&$@ everything up, like what happened to Nokia and HP.

Edited 2011-10-21 03:37 UTC

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