Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Oct 2011 23:17 UTC, submitted by jello
Apple So, how serious is the legal battle between Apple and the various Android phone makers, really? Surely, it's just logical business sense that's behind it, right? Calculated, well-planned precision strikes designed to hurt Android where simply making better, more innovative products isn't enough? Well, no, not really. We already knew Steve Jobs took this personal - now we know just how personal.
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Comment by TADS
by TADS on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 00:14 UTC
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Most progress in this industry is made by taking someone else's concept and refining it to the point where you end up with something people want.

It's not like Apple invented these concepts, there were touch screens before the iPhone came out, other smartphones, icons laid out in a grid pattern, app stores of a sort (linux repositories) and so on... What Apple did was polish the hell out of these concepts to the point where they had a really good implementation. Then they made it easy to develop for it.

But hey, don't take it from me, take it from Steve:

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RE: Comment by TADS
by xylifyx on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 10:15 in reply to "Comment by TADS"
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The ideas behind the Macintosh was stoken from Rank Xerox. What irony. History repeats itself.

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RE[2]: Comment by TADS
by thavith_osn on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 11:16 in reply to "RE: Comment by TADS"
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Apple went to Xerox and asked to see what they were doing, and were granted permission to see it. Apple didn't get to see it for free either, I forget what was needed to allow Apple in, but it was more than a smile and a quick phone call.

Not only that, Apple did "invent" certain aspects of the UI that weren't needed by Xerox, such as the scroll bar and pull down menus.

Xerox also took cues from others as well, such as the mouse and where they got some ideas too. There are a series of interesting videos from the late 60's (

We are all standing on the shoulders of giants or as Bono once said, we are stealing from the thieves...

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RE[2]: Comment by TADS
by viton on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 13:46 in reply to "RE: Comment by TADS"
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So you prefered to see inventions of the said researchers to be burried in labs? "Cowboys" @ Xerox didn't recognised the value of their R&D division.

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RE[2]: Comment by TADS
by henderson101 on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 14:45 in reply to "RE: Comment by TADS"
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If stealing involves giving a large amount of stock to the "victim" in return for being allowed access to, and therefore develop, the WIMP interface - sure. What Microsoft then did was more akin to stealing I'm afraid.

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RE: Comment by TADS
by SilConGeeky on Mon 24th Oct 2011 00:52 in reply to "Comment by TADS"
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Zoologiest... oh give me break! No wonder they nearly went bankrupt while Microsoft just kept focusing on what mattered.

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