Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Oct 2011 23:17 UTC, submitted by jello
Apple So, how serious is the legal battle between Apple and the various Android phone makers, really? Surely, it's just logical business sense that's behind it, right? Calculated, well-planned precision strikes designed to hurt Android where simply making better, more innovative products isn't enough? Well, no, not really. We already knew Steve Jobs took this personal - now we know just how personal.
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RE[5]: Pirates of Silicon Valley
by frderi on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 09:20 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Pirates of Silicon Valley"
frderi
Member since:
2011-06-17

And its about damn time too, if they want to keep this so called "monniker" that the thing is open to begin with.

Mind you, "open" for Android means just open for manufacturers. Not end users. Sources for the chipsets of the specific phones aren't included, thus, the source code is useless to upgrade your phone. On how many present day phones will ICS work? Zero. For me, this is not the spirit and intention of GPL.

Meanwhile, my 2+ year old iPhone 3GS, sans the ideologic BS that its free and open and its the better thing for human society, is humming away just fine on iOS5, the latest version. Talk about warped values.

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Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

Most Google people I'm following on G+ say most Gingerbread devices should be capable of an ICS upgrade. That implies to me they haven't changed enough of the kernel to render the old device drivers incompatible, so the third party ROM makers shouldn't have nearly as much trouble porting ICS to Gingerbread phones as they've had porting Donut, Eclair and Froyo to Cupcake devices.

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frderi Member since:
2011-06-17

Google can say all they want. There's an ocean of difference between "There shouldn't be much difficulty in porting the device drivers" and "every manufacturer will put out updates so you are sure to run the latest system".

Android is a very different beast in terms of how the device makers look at it. While Android takes obvious queues from iOS feature wise, the device makers look at it from the device point of view. Like all device makers, have done for so many years. You want the new features? You buy the new model. Why would they put effort in releasing something that will compromise sales of their new devices?

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

In Australia an unlocked Galaxy SII costs 45% less than an unlocked iPhone 4S.

Apple just allows you to keep your outdated and overpriced hardware running a little longer. Some consolation.

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frderi Member since:
2011-06-17

45% Less is still 110% of the price in comparison when you need to upgrade your phone.

But I hear you, in overseas pricing Apple could do better.

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viton Member since:
2005-08-09

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You're one of the tech fanatics who upgrade their phone every year? :-)

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Sources for the chipsets of the specific phones aren't included, thus, the source code is useless to upgrade your phone.

Because they are released separately by the manufacturers...

And if you're referring baseband, then I just have to point out that it's illegal to mess with the baseband in most countries. Enabling illegal activity is also illegal.

On how many present day phones will ICS work? Zero.

Zero? That's an overstatement. Phones without a GPU will definitely not get ICS, but zero?

For me, this is not the spirit and intention of GPL.

Why did you mention GPL? GPL demands are very clear and strict. The whole spirit in embodied in the text.

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pgeorgi Member since:
2010-02-18

"On how many present day phones will ICS work? Zero.

Phones without a GPU will definitely not get ICS, but zero?
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I think it's safe to say that every phone with Android on it has a GPU - including acceleration features.

It's the Android architecture so far that wasn't ready to make use of that.

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