Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 21st Oct 2011 23:17 UTC, submitted by jello
Apple So, how serious is the legal battle between Apple and the various Android phone makers, really? Surely, it's just logical business sense that's behind it, right? Calculated, well-planned precision strikes designed to hurt Android where simply making better, more innovative products isn't enough? Well, no, not really. We already knew Steve Jobs took this personal - now we know just how personal.
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RE[2]: Comment by TADS
by thavith_osn on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 11:16 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by TADS"
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Apple went to Xerox and asked to see what they were doing, and were granted permission to see it. Apple didn't get to see it for free either, I forget what was needed to allow Apple in, but it was more than a smile and a quick phone call.

Not only that, Apple did "invent" certain aspects of the UI that weren't needed by Xerox, such as the scroll bar and pull down menus.

Xerox also took cues from others as well, such as the mouse and where they got some ideas too. There are a series of interesting videos from the late 60's (

We are all standing on the shoulders of giants or as Bono once said, we are stealing from the thieves...

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RE[3]: Comment by TADS
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 22nd Oct 2011 11:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by TADS"
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That's the point. Apple and its zealots believe Apple invented everything and everybody is else is stealing from poor Apple - while in fact, Apple hasn't invented anything in its entire existence. Apple has always built upon work done by others, improving what was already being developed by academia and startups - in many cases work paid for by tax money.

I actually have no issues with that - that's what companies are supposed to do - but what I do have issues with is the fact that even Apple itself now seems to believe it "invents" things, and "owns" the work it has 'stolen' (Apple zealot parlance) from others.

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RE[4]: Comment by TADS
by 1c3d0g on Sun 23rd Oct 2011 00:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by TADS"
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Well fucking said! >:|

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RE[4]: Comment by TADS
by Hussein on Mon 24th Oct 2011 09:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by TADS"
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Not even close.

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