Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 24th Oct 2011 20:05 UTC
Apple Appleinsider writes: "An anticipated Apple high-definition television set, complete with iOS features including Siri voice commands, FaceTime video chat and access to the App Store, would be a strong product in a massive $100 billion market, according to a new analysis." Last year I explained my vision of a smart TV too (read the comment), and my ideas were pretty much the same thing AppleInsider discusses about today. Back then I was almost laughed at by most OSNews residents for these ideas. I have the feeling that the people who then found my ideas ridiculous, they'll now find a possible Apple smart TV "natural" and "revolutionary".
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Nope
by phoenix on Mon 24th Oct 2011 21:55 UTC
phoenix
Member since:
2005-07-11

I said back then, and I'll say it again now: TV screens should be just dumb screens with lots of input connectors. Everything else (VCR, PVR, DVD, Blu-Ray, game consoles, media centres, etc) should be external boxes that plug into the TV screen. Even the cable tuner. There should be no functional difference between a "TV" screen and a "PC" screen besides the resolution and the number of inputs.

What happens when Apple updates iOS and deprecates the "Apple TV" after 2 years?

What happens when the flash disk in the TV dies?

What happens when the flash disk corrupts?

We need to be making TVs dumber, not smarter.

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RE: Nope
by Doc Pain on Mon 24th Oct 2011 23:32 in reply to "Nope"
Doc Pain Member since:
2006-10-08

I said back then, and I'll say it again now: TV screens should be just dumb screens with lots of input connectors. Everything else (VCR, PVR, DVD, Blu-Ray, game consoles, media centres, etc) should be external boxes that plug into the TV screen. Even the cable tuner. There should be no functional difference between a "TV" screen and a "PC" screen besides the resolution and the number of inputs.


A powerful and extensible approach, but it seems that customers want the "one size fits all", the "egg-laying wool-milk-sow", the "one device that does have everything". Of course possible devices are short on life time, as technology advances very fast, but customers seem to be used to it. After all, their constant re-buying of stuff they already have (i. e. stuff they need to perform the same trivial actions, like watching TV) benefits industry to make cheaper and cheaper products which in turn makes the products spread wider, and this again means that more and more "outdated" products need to be bought again...

Additionally, making the TV "just a monitor" could cause tax decreaes in some countries.

In Germany, you have to pay a kind of tax for any "radio reception capable" device you own: A TV, a radio, a PC or a smartphone (which you can also use to watch TV, just like with using a PC). The exception is a monitor that doesn't contain the functionality to "receive radio transmission". There's even an authority for that -- in fact, it's just a private company collecting the "TV toll" for the state, see "GEZ". Devices have to be registered with the state so they can calculate your individual "TV toll" depending on how many devices you own.

What happens when Apple updates iOS and deprecates the "Apple TV" after 2 years?


What always happens: You need to buy something new, or stick with what you have in a limited state as long as possible, just until you can't use it anymore (like analog satelite reception in Germany).

What happens when the flash disk in the TV dies?


Call iService. :-)

What happens when the flash disk corrupts?


Call iService and iPolice, :-)

We need to be making TVs dumber, not smarter.


The "free market" won't let you do this, as customers have been conditioned by advertising that they need "smart devices" everywhere and everytime, even if all they do is letting the TV raining down on them.

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RE: Nope
by kristoph on Tue 25th Oct 2011 06:18 in reply to "Nope"
kristoph Member since:
2006-01-01

All of your point's apply to any given iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, and, to a lesser extent, any Apple laptop, iMac, Mac Mini, etc.

There will always be those who want to and can upgrade regularly and there will be those will be happy to pay a 3 year old Apple TV at half price.

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RE: Nope
by David on Wed 26th Oct 2011 22:08 in reply to "Nope"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

I agree with you that the TV should be a dumb screen. I don't have any idea whether Apple is really making a TV, but if they do, I'd sure prefer that it be something like a giant sized Thunderbolt display with a space to attach an AppleTV on the back. It can have the camera and sensors and ports attached, but I agree that it would be best if you could upgrade the AppleTV hardware, or use different hardware, and I think it would also be best for Apple.

On the other hand, it's probably cheaper just to include the AppleTV hardware inside. And the TV has to have at least some rudimentary OS, if only to handle the menus and settings. It's probably easier just to make it a full-blown AppleTV.

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