Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Oct 2011 22:37 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes Considering the polarising topic of software patents and related IP litigation is coming up a lot lately, I felt the need to write a few words on this thing called 'bias'. This word is being thrown around a lot, but I get the feeling many people are unclear as to what, exactly, it means. Because contrary to popular opinion, there's nothing wrong with being being biased. In fact, there's no such thing as unbiased blogging (or even unbiased journalism).
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the problem
by kristoph on Tue 25th Oct 2011 06:32 UTC
kristoph
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2006-01-01

The main problem with OSNews today is not that you are biased. It's fine to be biased / have an opinion.

The problem I have with many of your posts is that you simply pick and choose some random article that supports your position on an issue, you wrap it in vitriol, and you present it as fact and any counter argument is met with abject hostility.

You also make no effort to show ANY respect to any opposing opinions, you frequently denigrate other journalists and bloggers, and you make personal attacks against your readers in response to perfectly legitimate comments.

It's totally ok to be biassed and have strong opinions on issues. It's really not ok to call anyone who disagrees with you and idiot / fanatic / liar or whatever. That's really very much beneath you.

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RE: the problem
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 25th Oct 2011 09:20 in reply to "the problem"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

The problem I have with many of your posts is that you simply pick and choose some random article that supports your position on an issue, you wrap it in vitriol, and you present it as fact and any counter argument is met with abject hostility.

You also make no effort to show ANY respect to any opposing opinions, you frequently denigrate other journalists and bloggers, and you make personal attacks against your readers in response to perfectly legitimate comments.


This is, of course, provably nonsense. If I really were as hostile and evil as you make it out to be, OSNews wouldn't be filled to the brim with people who disagree with me.

If someone's an Apple fanatic, I see absolutely zero reason not to simply say so. There's nothing wrong about being called a 'fanatic' - it's not a negative label at all. It just means you're enthusiastic about something, a fan of something. You can call me a Metro fanatic or BeOS fanatic or Windows NT fanatic or microkernel fanatic every time of the day. I don't care.

I also don't think someone like lemur2 would object to being labelled a KDE or open source fanatic - it's a very apt description of the kinds of views that he holds. It's not a negative judgement at all. It seems like only a small number of Apple fanatics take issue with being labelled fanatics - well, that's your problem, not mine.

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RE[2]: the problem
by saynte on Tue 25th Oct 2011 17:19 in reply to "RE: the problem"
saynte Member since:
2007-12-10

Fanatic can have a fairly negative connotation, namely that you disregard reason in support of something. Perhaps you were not aware of this common interpretation of the term?

So no, I'm afraid fanatic can very very easily be a negative label.

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RE[2]: the problem
by MOS6510 on Tue 25th Oct 2011 18:31 in reply to "RE: the problem"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

It's not the name calling, like Apple fanatic/fanboy, but it's you disregarding any arguments and disrespecting the person because he/she is labeled a fanatic/fanboy by you.

And it's not the OSNews readers, it's also other bloggers, journalists, sites and companies that get labeled, biased, insulted and disregarded.

You can have your bias and preferences, but you can have and express those without the direct insults or indirect jabs at others, sometimes when these other parties not even have any relation to the article you have written or news event you linked.

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RE[2]: the problem
by jaimzob on Tue 25th Oct 2011 18:57 in reply to "RE: the problem"
jaimzob Member since:
2011-08-19

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You also make no effort to show ANY respect to any opposing opinions, you frequently denigrate other journalists and bloggers, and you make personal attacks against your readers in response to perfectly legitimate comments.


This is, of course, provably nonsense.
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Except you've just proven that guy right in six words with your childishly snippy response. Could you really not have thought of a better way of phrasing that?

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RE[2]: the problem
by BeamishBoy on Fri 28th Oct 2011 18:22 in reply to "RE: the problem"
BeamishBoy Member since:
2010-10-27

There's nothing wrong about being called a 'fanatic' - it's not a negative label at all.


I know you're Dutch Thom, so you can be forgiven for this, but it's simply not true. In the English-speaking world "fanatic" almost always has a negative connotation.

(Indeed, it's not just in English that this is true. The Latin root of fanatic is fanaticus, meaning "insane person.")

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