Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 25th Oct 2011 23:00 UTC
Windows Ten years ago today, Microsoft launched what would become the world's most popular desktop operating system - for better or worse. Its interface colours were... Interesting (trying hard to avoid bias here, folks, bear with me now). Its early performance was... Not always entirely up to par. Its security track record was... Well, it sucked hard in that department (I tried). We're ten years down the line, and thanks to Vista, way too many people are still using this relic.
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RE[8]: A great OS
by Icaria on Wed 26th Oct 2011 08:21 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: A great OS"
Icaria
Member since:
2010-06-19

Of course it is relevant. You are trying to say Windows XP is secure enough.


Which it is - for BeamishBoy and other 'non-brain-dead' users, who were the subjects of both our posts and to which you're replying.

The popular view is even that "computers get slower after a while". This is what (Windows) users experience, even though it should not happen (software performance should not degrade with time).


Except this does happen, even on OSX and linux. Config files and logs get messy and/or bloated, becoming harder to parse, data becomes corrupted, there's the very slow creep of additional services/daemons/'widgets' as users seek additional functionality and to a small degree, data fragmentation on the filesystem continues to be an issue. Then there's software 'upgrades' that slowly invite themselves to more system resources, there's the very real degradation in the performance of PC hardware as it ages and there's users invariably perceiving their PCs as getting slower as they optimise their efficiency with familiar workflows and they get faster.

But I digress - indeed, so do you.

Edited 2011-10-26 08:22 UTC

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RE[9]: A great OS
by lemur2 on Wed 26th Oct 2011 09:32 in reply to "RE[8]: A great OS"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Which it is - for BeamishBoy and other 'non-brain-dead' users, who were the subjects of both our posts and to which you're replying.


... and which it most definitely isn't, for literally millions of non-expert machine owners who are expected to maintain their own machines.

Not everyone is an IT expert, nor should they be expected to be.

Except this does happen, even on OSX and linux. Config files and logs get messy and/or bloated, becoming harder to parse, data becomes corrupted, there's the very slow creep of additional services/daemons/'widgets' as users seek additional functionality and to a small degree, data fragmentation on the filesystem continues to be an issue. Then there's software 'upgrades' that slowly invite themselves to more system resources, there's the very real degradation in the performance of PC hardware as it ages


The poor performance of Windows has apparently given you some very strange ideas, and low expectations.

On linux, config files stay the same. Log files can be purged with a cron job. Functions do not simply accumulate, unless you deliberately install new functions.

PC hardware performance does not degrade as it ages. A 2 GHz clock is still 2 Ghz 10 years later on. 7500 rpm is still 7500 rpm.

Edited 2011-10-26 09:46 UTC

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RE[10]: A great OS
by lucas_maximus on Wed 26th Oct 2011 10:14 in reply to "RE[9]: A great OS"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

PC hardware performance does not degrade as it ages. A 2 GHz clock is still 2 Ghz 10 years later on. 7500 rpm is still 7500 rpm.


Err ... Electrical components have a lifetime you know ... Old hardrives are likely to break ... heat and time slowly destroy components.

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RE[10]: A great OS
by Icaria on Wed 26th Oct 2011 10:23 in reply to "RE[9]: A great OS"
Icaria Member since:
2010-06-19

... and which it most definitely isn't, for literally millions of non-expert machine owners who are expected to maintain their own machines.

Not everyone is an IT expert, nor should they be expected to be.
No shit.

The poor performance of Windows has apparently given you some very strange ideas, and low expectations.
I'm primarily a linux user.

On linux, config files stay the same.
Ideally, yes. In reality, no.

Log files can be purged with a cron job.
Says Mr. 'not everyone should be an IT expert'.

Functions do not simply accumulate, unless you deliberately install new functions.
Which is exactly what I suggested people do.

PC hardware performance does not degrade as it ages. A 2 GHz clock is still 2 Ghz 10 years later on. 7500 rpm is still 7500 rpm.
Yes, it does. Performance peaks after a few months of use and then slowly declines. As errors accumulate on that 7500rpm HDD, the read/write times increase. As the circuitry and transistors on your CPU oxidise, actual performance drops, while the reported clock speed remains the same; conductivity and heat dissipation can decline with time, meaning that once stable 2ghz overclock needs to be dropped to 1.8ghz and/or have the voltage ramped up.

Edited 2011-10-26 10:23 UTC

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