Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 31st Oct 2011 12:25 UTC
Linux "Red Hat, Canonical and the Linux Foundation have laid out a set of recommendations for hardware vendors in hopes of preserving the ability to install Linux on Windows 8 machines. Windows 8 machines should ship in a setup mode giving users more control right off the bat, the groups argue." Group hug-cheer combo for Red Hat, Canonical, and the Linux Foundation please.
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by Straho on Mon 31st Oct 2011 15:28 UTC
Straho
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2011-09-30

Today is more simple to install Ubuntu, Mint or Fedora, MS aren't happy with that. People in Asia, South America and South and Eastern Europe use pirate Windows,MS aren't happy with that. Some people in this countries even think for local Linux Distributions like national alternative for big ugly corporate OS, MS are angry with that. MS produce user base with free licenses for education and governments and millions of pirate copies of windows in this countries, but most people uninstall vista to install pirate xp.
That's MS chance to capitalize this developing countries and lock them to company products. I hope small and local OEMs to get this chance and produce non-windows hardware. For example Pardus will equip turkish schools with linux computers and tablets. That's big opportunity and must be used be local companies and governments.
Excuse me for my bad English.

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by Alfman on Mon 31st Oct 2011 16:18 in reply to "..."
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Straho,

"I hope small and local OEMs to get this chance and produce non-windows hardware. For example Pardus will equip turkish schools with linux computers and tablets. That's big opportunity and must be used be local companies and governments."

Interesting, MS is generally the benefactor of secure boot because they are a monopoly in most places. But in theory, secure boot could be used to exclude windows in favor of something else. Some people might enjoy the revenge aspect, but personally I'd be just as disappointed in my lack of control over my own machine.

Once a repressive government regime gets ahold of this and mandates their own keys in consumer gear, only then will people realize how Orwellian secure boot really is.

Edit: Just because I don't want people misrepresenting my view, I'd like to state again that a secure boot feature is a good thing, but only if it's entirely under the control of the true owner. A secure boot specification which allows for the possibility of the owner to be permanently locked out by third parties is nefarious.

Edited 2011-10-31 16:29 UTC

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RE[3]: They have plenty of reasons...
by zima on Mon 31st Oct 2011 21:56 in reply to "..."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

People in Asia, South America and South and Eastern Europe use pirate Windows,MS aren't happy with that.

They're relatively almost-happy, we had some big fishes from MS expressing how they very much prefer it to people being exposed to alternative operating systems (some examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software#.22... )

Edited 2011-10-31 22:01 UTC

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Straho Member since:
2011-09-30

[q] As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours. They'll get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to collect sometime in the next decade.
—Bill Gates[q]
I'm not sure when BG said that, but was long ago. May be next decade already come.

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