Linked by David Adams on Mon 31st Oct 2011 16:43 UTC, submitted by RichterKuato
Multimedia, AV While Adobe previously said it would support Google's WebM video format within their Flash Player software, it doesn't look like this support will be arriving soon. Adobe's MAX 2011 conference took place last week in Los Angeles. During a Q&A session, WebM support in Flash was talked about. After Adobe was questioned about the WebM support, the response was, "Yes, on the priority list it's not very high because we don't have a lot of customers or real customers who want to do production with WebM. The problem on the production side is that encoding WebM is simply too slow, it's not real time. And it's not JDI too (just do it). Yes, it's a lot of work for us."
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RE: Adobe is missing the point...
by rdoyle720 on Mon 31st Oct 2011 21:56 UTC in reply to "Adobe is missing the point..."
rdoyle720
Member since:
2010-02-22

I'm all for Adobe adding it, but "it's not that hard"? If you have experience writing a WebM decoder I'm sure Adobe would be happy to have your help.

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galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

I'm all for Adobe adding it, but "it's not that hard"? If you have experience writing a WebM decoder I'm sure Adobe would be happy to have your help.


They don't need to write a webm decoder - they just need to interface libvpx with their playback code. It really isn't that hard - VLC did an initial implementation in like a week...

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righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Do you really think Adobe isn't adding WebM support to Flash yet because of technical obstacles instead of legal ones?

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mutantsushi Member since:
2006-08-18

Legal obstacles being the anonymous MPEG-LA patents?
I don´t see any obstacle there. ASSUMING THEY EXIST AND ARE VALID,
Adobe already has a licence to them, otherwise they would being sued for their implementation of H.264, which the patents all supposedly apply to. Note that there are several H.264 implementations around... MPEG-LA doesn´t care HOW you implement the patents. If MPEG-LA considers WebM to use said patents, and it actually does (for argument´s sake) then it is just another implementation of those patents, no different than x.264. Adobe already is a MPEG-LA licensee. If Flash now offers two code-paths to implement the patents, there isn´t really anything different to the current H.264 Flash situation.

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I'm all for Adobe adding it, but "it's not that hard"? If you have experience writing a WebM decoder I'm sure Adobe would be happy to have your help.


There are already at least two WebM decoders that Adobe could use.

The WebM decoder source code available from here:

http://www.webmproject.org/code/#webm-repositories

... is irrevocably licensed at zero cost (i.e. royalty-free) to everybody world-wide. There are no restrictions on its use, other than people who wish to use it may not sue Google over it.

http://www.webmproject.org/license/software/

Essentially, the terms are these:

Copyright (c) 2010, Google Inc. All rights reserved.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:

- Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.

- Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.

- Neither the name of Google nor the names of its contributors may be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission.


There you go, source code for a WebM decoder that Adobe can readily use without risk.

That was just too easy, really.

Edited 2011-11-01 03:04 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

TBH why would Adobe bother?

It is better that people need to use Flash mp4 embedding than supporting WebM ... since that would be a nail in the coffin of flash.

TBH I am surprised more people aren't interested about this

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/native-javascript-h...

Edited 2011-11-01 20:12 UTC

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