Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Nov 2011 21:31 UTC, submitted by Z_God
KDE Disappointed with KDE 4's performance and other shortcomings, Timothy Pearson continued KDE 3.5 development under the name Trinity. Today the first third major update of the Trinity Desktop Environment is released, providing an alternative upgrade path for KDE users who do not feel comfortable with KDE 4.
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Comment by joekiser
by joekiser on Tue 1st Nov 2011 22:48 UTC
joekiser
Member since:
2005-06-30

I like that the Trinity Desktop environment exists. Years ago I thought that KDE 3.5 (with the Kickoff menu) was the best desktop environment around, and I've never been able to have that kind of speed and stability in KDE 4.x. (IMHO, Mageia and Fedora's KDE spin are usable). I have a couple of questions though:

1) Is there a plan to move to Qt 4.x? Qt3 hasn't been maintained in almost seven years, and feels dated. Is Trinity going to be a modern continuation of the KDE 3 experience, or a relic from the past?

2) How do the developers plan on integrating the KDE 3 applications? I'm talking about things like DigiKam, K3b, Kaffeine, KDevelop...the integration of programs are what made KDE 3 great. Are they going to maintain separate forks, or do I have to pull in KDE4.x and set it to use the Plastik theme?

Thanks for the hard work, guys.

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by JPisini on Tue 1st Nov 2011 23:01 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
JPisini Member since:
2006-01-24

As far as qt3 they have taken over maintenance of that as well. http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_... I use the old version of digikam and k3b with no issues but you can also use the newer versions if you like you just need to install extra libraries if you want to mix.

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by calvinmorrison on Tue 1st Nov 2011 23:07 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
calvinmorrison Member since:
2011-11-01

Hey I am a developer for Trinity ;)

1) Is there a plan to move to Qt 4.x? Qt3 hasn't been maintained in almost seven >years, and feels dated. Is Trinity going to be a modern continuation of the KDE 3 >experience, or a relic from the past?


We Actually maintain Qt3 as of this release. This means we've been adding patches, and pulling in the many dozen patches from distributions that have piled up over the years.

As for Qt4, it's in beta. We actually have a abstraction layer for Qt called TQt. this will allow us to use Qt4, Qt5, Qt3, whatever, concurently and effectively. Reduces the porting effort majorly.

Funnily enough we've had A lot of QA issues with Qt4, some stuff just plain doesn't work, or has been really dumbed down from Qt3. Qt3 is much faster and works well, but we are definitely in the process of being able to use Qt4 optionally.

>2) How do the developers plan on integrating the KDE 3 applications? I'm talking >about things like DigiKam, K3b, Kaffeine, KDevelop...the integration of programs >are what made KDE 3 great. Are they going to maintain separate forks, or do I >have to pull in KDE4.x and set it to use the Plastik theme?


We have those applications in our SVN tree and repositories. Basically we maintain them now. This means we've been patching them to work with our latest libraries (which have changed quite a bit, broken the ABI compatibility). Typically this process is pretty simple, this release we have added 3 "new" applications to repository. We are looking to add more as well. Right now we have
probably 50+ applications, from Digikam to Amarok and the whole KDevelop Suite.

Thanks for the hard work, guys.

;) Rock on! Thanks for your support!

Edited 2011-11-01 23:24 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by joekiser
by NuxRo on Tue 1st Nov 2011 23:31 in reply to "RE: Comment by joekiser"
NuxRo Member since:
2010-09-25

Care to provide a valid download place for EL6 rpms? Nothing works now..
Do you need more download mirrors?

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by calvinmorrison on Tue 1st Nov 2011 23:22 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
calvinmorrison Member since:
2011-11-01

x

Edited 2011-11-01 23:23 UTC

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by boudewijn on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 07:26 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
boudewijn Member since:
2006-03-05

Well, because the trinity people work inside KDE's svn infrastructure, I see their commits pass by. I see that they're doing some kind of abstraction layer thingy so they can compile with Qt4 and Qt3 and I know they are porting the old KOffice 1.6 codebase to it, so they're also taking care of the apps.

They also very decently renamed Krita in the old KOffice application set to something else when I asked them to, since no matter how you slice it, Krita 2.4 is much, much, much faster, more powerful and more useful than Krita 1.6 and I didn't want users to get confused.

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