Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Nov 2011 21:31 UTC, submitted by Z_God
KDE Disappointed with KDE 4's performance and other shortcomings, Timothy Pearson continued KDE 3.5 development under the name Trinity. Today the first third major update of the Trinity Desktop Environment is released, providing an alternative upgrade path for KDE users who do not feel comfortable with KDE 4.
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RE[3]: Thom's justified...
by lemur2 on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 04:16 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Thom's justified..."
lemur2
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2007-02-17

I think Lancelot's is a poor attempt to create another menu which is more messy than KickOff itself.


There are a number of choices and modes of both Kickoff and Lancelot, and they both follow the selected theme. You can't possibly criticise them all, so you thought you would just go for a generic slur, hey?

The themes are ugly and unattractive. All of them have quirks.


Easy for you to say. No, really, that is just easy to say. It is simple, you don't have to prove anything, and you can get a cheap shot in without any effort at all.

Not credible. Cheap shot. Unproven, unsupported and unsupportable. Try again.

Windows 7 Menu and the themes...well... please copy Windows 7 theme too. Why not. Since complete noobs can't see any difference between KDE4 and Windows 7, just copy it. The problem my friend, is that KDE team is just after Windows 7 heels. Copying it... and to NOT SAY THAT, they make up particular idiosyncrasies which don't help the user at all.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4

The first major version (4.0) of this series was released on 11 January 2008

http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-most-beautiful-plasma-themes-for-...

Above page was posted Posted by jun auza On 8/20/2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

Windows 7 was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and reached general retail availability on October 22, 2009.

Let's take the facts into account. Default facts.


OK, let's do just that. Exactly when did the KDE developers invent their time machine in your world?

Facts please.

Edited 2011-11-02 04:25 UTC

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RE[4]: Thom's justified...
by dragossh on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 04:25 in reply to "RE[3]: Thom's justified..."
dragossh Member since:
2008-12-16


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4

The first major version (4.0) of this series was released on 11 January 2008

http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-most-beautiful-plasma-themes-for-...

Above page was posted Posted by jun auza On 8/20/2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7

Windows 7 was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and reached general retail availability on October 22, 2009.


Yes.. At that point in time they were copying Vista with its black UI and shiny themes.

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the newest versions of KDE4 trying to copy 7, but you chose to misinterpret what he was saying.

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RE[5]: Thom's justified...
by lemur2 on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 05:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Thom's justified..."
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4 The first major version (4.0) of this series was released on 11 January 2008 http://www.junauza.com/2008/08/10-most-beautiful-plasma-themes-for-... Above page was posted Posted by jun auza On 8/20/2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7 Windows 7 was released to manufacturing on July 22, 2009, and reached general retail availability on October 22, 2009.
Yes.. At that point in time they were copying Vista with its black UI and shiny themes. I'm pretty sure he was talking about the newest versions of KDE4 trying to copy 7, but you chose to misinterpret what he was saying. "

Why doesn't he conclude that Win 7 is a copy of KDE4? Except of course for transparent window title bars, which are a UI problem utterly unique to Windows.

This conclusion would, after all, fit better with the whole "cause and effect" thingy, given the timelines.

AFAIK just about the only desktop UI feature that truly originates in Windows 7 is the Aero "snap" feature, which KDE4 has a lesser implementation of in the form of "Quick tiling (snap to edge)".

http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.4_Release_Goals

"New: Window maximizing and tiling by snapping to the screen-edges ("Quick tiling and maximization")"

If anything else has been copied, it has been copied from KDE4 to Windows 7. It is that whole "cause and effect", you see.

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RE[5]: Thom's justified...
by Jason Bourne on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 14:27 in reply to "RE[4]: Thom's justified..."
Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

Thanks for the defense, yes that was exactly what I meant. You said it all. The 4 series HAS BEEN copying Windows since the rise of Vista and it's black UI bars... very well put.

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