Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Nov 2011 21:31 UTC, submitted by Z_God
KDE Disappointed with KDE 4's performance and other shortcomings, Timothy Pearson continued KDE 3.5 development under the name Trinity. Today the first third major update of the Trinity Desktop Environment is released, providing an alternative upgrade path for KDE users who do not feel comfortable with KDE 4.
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RE[3]: Strange
by RaisedFist on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 07:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Strange"
RaisedFist
Member since:
2005-07-06

Thom, I read a lot of your comments and articles, but this one is just bullshit. I usualy use Openbox on my laptop (a Dell Vostro 1310, CPU Intel T5670 @ 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM, Intel Graphics) and I tried KDE4 just a few weeks ago.

Apart from the fact that I don't like too much eyecandy I can tell you I had no issues with the interface. No lag whatsoever in animations and graphics. There was no problem at all with compositing... so I can conclude that either you have a problem with KDE4 yourself or your hardware doesn't like it (sucks!)

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RE[4]: Strange
by Laurence on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 12:48 in reply to "RE[3]: Strange"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Thom, I read a lot of your comments and articles, but this one is just bullshit. I usualy use Openbox on my laptop (a Dell Vostro 1310, CPU Intel T5670 @ 1.8GHz, 2GB RAM, Intel Graphics) and I tried KDE4 just a few weeks ago.

Apart from the fact that I don't like too much eyecandy I can tell you I had no issues with the interface. No lag whatsoever in animations and graphics. There was no problem at all with compositing... so I can conclude that either you have a problem with KDE4 yourself or your hardware doesn't like it (sucks!)


Seriously, why do you people keep posting bullshit anecdotal evidence about your own personal hardware. It's completely worthless data.

So many things will affect KDE4's performance:
* specific hardware (this is even more of an issue with pre-builds like laptops as the same graphics card can behave differently in one than it can in the other. Also I've noticed upgrading from HDD to SSD has made my compositing noticeably smoother - in spite of the upgrade not being directly related to graphics hardware)
* drivers (often there's more than one open source and closed binary - all of which behave differently on different hardware)
* what Linux distro you're running (some offer better performance out of the box than others on the same hardware)
* what KDE tweaks you're running (render method, composite quality vs speed, etc)
* what effects you've selected (some are more intensive than others)
* BIOS tweaks (if you know what you're doing, you can get some noticeable performance differences by just changing a few options in the BIOS)
* the amount of crap you're running at a time (self explanatory really)
* your output resolution
...and so on.

So all this shit about "it runs well on xyz" etc is completely meaningless.


Also, I believe the KDE team were using the same excuses as MS were for Vista's poor performance and stability: poor graphics drivers.
You can read into that statement whichever way you want ;)

Edited 2011-11-02 12:49 UTC

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RE[4]: Strange
by righard on Wed 2nd Nov 2011 13:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Strange"
righard Member since:
2007-12-26

Don't immediately write something of as bullshit just because it does not apply to you.

I have the same experience as Thom with regards to KDE 4.x Let me start by saying that want to love KDE. I install each minor version in order to see how it progresses. Always I hope it can become my mane DE.

That said on my old with a single core 1.8GHz cpu (don't know which one any more) 4GB RAM and a Nvidia GeForce GT240 KDE performance is very sluggish. Both with Nvidia's own drivers as Nouveau's, tested under both Arch and Kubuntu. Ditto for my girlfriends pc with about the same specs.

Now I bought a new pc --with the soul purpose of playing Deus Ex 3 ;) -- but I kept my old videocard. KDE performance became very good. I have nothing to complain in that department. But the stability of the system is still horrible, I mean Windows ME horrible. After a weak I could not bare it any more and installed Gnome 3 (...which I did not like so I installed Fluxbox ;) )

Again, I think, feature-wise, KDE is great and the people working on it are great to. I really like to use it. But it still doesn't work for me, if it works for you, great, I envy you. If it works for the majority of people (as it appears to do), even better! But don't write of people telling otherwise for telling bullshit, or blaming the hardware. This machine runs other DE (like Gnome 3), modern games and much more complex software without any problem.

And why, why would anybody tell bullshit(lie) about it, what is to gain?

Edited 2011-11-02 13:19 UTC

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RE[5]: Strange
by suryad on Fri 4th Nov 2011 16:57 in reply to "RE[4]: Strange"
suryad Member since:
2005-07-09

I have the same issue but on my laptop. KDE4 I really wanted to like but it is laggy as hell. I don't know what to do other than reinstalling the Gnome shell based Ubuntu or using Xubuntu. With Gnome shell I had zero problems. 11.10 of Kubuntu just has not been impressive enough.

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