Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Nov 2011 19:34 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Hardware, Embedded Systems A big issue right now in the world of operating systems - especially Linux - is Microsoft's requirement that all Windows 8 machines ship with UEFI's secure boot enabled, with no requirement that OEMs implement it so users can turn it off. This has caused some concern in the Linux world, and considering Microsoft's past and current business practices and the incompetence of OEMs, that's not unwarranted. CNet's Ed Bott decided to pose the issue to OEMs. Dell stated is has plans to include the option to turn secure boot off, while HP was a bit more vague about the issue.
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RE: Err how is this uncertain?
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 3rd Nov 2011 20:35 UTC in reply to "Err how is this uncertain?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Summary:

You believe OEMs and Microsoft on their blue eyes. After years of abuse and patent troll behaviour, smart people don't.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Love it Thom ... don't actually dispute any of my points but make a blanket statement I am naive.

Honestly OEM aren't going to give the Win7 market up after most Corps are just moving to it.

Microsoft are bloody benign compared to Mobile phone carriers, estate agents and Fasthosts (f--king evil).

Funnily enough I have never been abused by Microsoft or Bill Gates ... At no point have my private parts be stimulated by Microsoft or Bill Gates against my will.

All they have ever done is expected me to pay for something they produce ... Greedy f--ks.

Edited 2011-11-03 20:46 UTC

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satan666 Member since:
2008-04-18

Microsoft are bloody benign compared to Mobile phone carriers, estate agents and Fasthosts (f--king evil).

The fact that Microsoft is less evil than others does not make Microsoft benign. Are you really using bening and Microsoft in the same sentence?
All they have ever done is expected me to pay for something they produce

Wow, really, that's all they did? Nothing else?

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Mellin Member since:
2005-07-06

expect me to pay for something i do not want (windows)

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Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

Hi,

Honestly OEM aren't going to give the Win7 market up after most Corps are just moving to it.


This is short-sighted (and I've seen it multiple times from multiple people).

In the short term I think you're right - for desktop/workstation/server (and not for smaller stuff like tablets and notebooks), OEMs will want to support Win7; and other OSs (Linux, Solaris, the three BSDs, etc) will only be screwed on some of the smaller stuff.

In the longer term, OEMs will eventually forget about Win7 (in the same way that no sane OEM cares about Win98 anymore). This is what other OSs (and companies like Redhat, and organisations like FSF and GNU) should be worried about - not the next few years, but the next few decades.

A man jumps off of a 20 storey building. While passing the tenth floor observers hear him say "Going well so far"...

- Brendan

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ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Never bought an Android phone, I see.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Summary:

I am Thom and I cannot make an arguement ... classy.

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