Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Nov 2011 19:34 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
Hardware, Embedded Systems A big issue right now in the world of operating systems - especially Linux - is Microsoft's requirement that all Windows 8 machines ship with UEFI's secure boot enabled, with no requirement that OEMs implement it so users can turn it off. This has caused some concern in the Linux world, and considering Microsoft's past and current business practices and the incompetence of OEMs, that's not unwarranted. CNet's Ed Bott decided to pose the issue to OEMs. Dell stated is has plans to include the option to turn secure boot off, while HP was a bit more vague about the issue.
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RE: Comment by AnythingButVista
by zlynx on Thu 3rd Nov 2011 22:44 UTC in reply to "Comment by AnythingButVista"
zlynx
Member since:
2005-07-20

10 years ago PCs were mostly around $1,000.

Today you can get cheaper options, yet people still want them to have all the features of the $1,000 machines.

People, you get what you pay for. Live with it.

If you have to spend $1,000 on a business class PC in order to get decent features, then you aren't any worse off than you were in the year 2000.

If you buy a $350 PC, it's going to be locked down, not have an install CD, come with annoying preinstalled software, and in the future probably be locked so you can't even get rid of the crapware.

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shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

In the end of course you can assemble your own machine, getting a motherboard with sane BIOS, and avoiding all this junk. But that's not the point. The point is a principle of having a choice for the user of any machine, not just the one you assembled on your own. It doesn't matter whether it costs $350 or $1000. Lower price doesn't mandate crippling the device in regards of user's control.

Edited 2011-11-03 22:50 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

There is no evidence that "crippling is going to happen" ... however you keep on chanting the same stuff like it is fact even though so far there is no evidence to support it except for Microsoft hatred.

Edited 2011-11-03 23:10 UTC

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

In the end of course you can assemble your own machine, getting a motherboard with sane BIOS, and avoiding all this junk. But that's not the point. The point is a principle of having a choice for the user of any machine, not just the one you assembled on your own. It doesn't matter whether it costs $350 or $1000. Lower price doesn't mandate crippling the device in regards of user's control.

This may come as a shock but a company protecting their interests is more important than your view on principles. Further, the fact that users have a number of options is _exactly_ the point. Nobody is being forced to purchase "Designed for Windows 8" systems, they are willingly choosing to do so. If such a system doesn't suit their needs, don't buy the system. The idea is very very very simple yet some act as if merely suggesting it is like ripping their arms and legs off.

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