Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd Nov 2011 19:34 UTC, submitted by lucas_maximus
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RE[8]: Comment by Soulbender
by Alfman on Fri 4th Nov 2011 03:17
in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Soulbender"
RE[9]: Comment by Soulbender
by lucas_maximus on Fri 4th Nov 2011 20:47
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RE[8]: Comment by Soulbender
by lemur2 on Fri 4th Nov 2011 03:37
in reply to "RE[7]: Comment by Soulbender"
There are manufacturers (big ones) that say they aren't going to be dicks and not give you the option.
That would be good, if true. However, to this point in time, it is just CNet's Ed Bott saying this, not manufacturers (big ones).
Even the BIOS guys are saying "We want you do to it not piss people off".
Not a problem anyway, FOSS guys have their own BIOSes.
WTF more do you guys want? You can boot your precious Operating System (I am an OpenBSD/Win 7 user). GPL is incompatiple with secure boot (thanks to RMS, but BSD is alright).
GRUB is GPL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_GRUB
... but LILO isn't
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO_%28boot_loader%29
... and Splashtop is proprietary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashtop
WTF more do you want?
Control over hardware that we purchase. "Sovreignity", if you will. If the hardware has UEFI with secure boot, then the owner of the hardware (the person who pays for it) should be the one to have control over keys. Not OEMs.
Edited 2011-11-04 03:39 UTC
RE[9]: Comment by Soulbender
by Alfman on Fri 4th Nov 2011 04:06
in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Soulbender"
lemur2,
"Control over hardware that we purchase. 'Sovreignity', if you will. If the hardware has UEFI with secure boot, then the owner of the hardware (the person who pays for it) should be the one to have control over keys. Not OEMs."
Exactly. While many people will not care about keys, what reason is there to deny access to those of us that do? Does anyone have a good reason owners should not be entitled to their own keys?





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tl;dr;
Read the f--king article.
UEFI doesn't allow any OS interaction with it. That is the whole idea there isn't an OS API to interact with it .. which is why it is secure.
There are manufacturers (big ones) that say they aren't going to be dicks and not give you the option. Even the BIOS guys are saying "We want you do to it not piss people off". WTF more do you guys want?
You can boot your precious Operating System (I am an OpenBSD/Win 7 user).
GPL is incompatiple with secure boot (thanks to RMS, but BSD is alright).
WTF more do you want?
Edited 2011-11-03 23:58 UTC