Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 4th Nov 2011 22:56 UTC, submitted by Dart
Linux When GNOME did its version 3 and Ubuntu came up with Unity, the popularity of Linux Mint sky-rocketed, because they stuck with GNOME 2.32. The Mint team has been working on their next version for a while now, and today, they first unveiled what they're working on. There's good news - the team is working on making GNOME 3 likeable. Their question for this release: "How do we make people like Gnome 3? And what do we provide as an alternative to those who still do not want to change?"
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GNOME 3 Revenge
by Jason Bourne on Fri 4th Nov 2011 23:38 UTC
Jason Bourne
Member since:
2007-06-02

This is actually a bold step for Linux Mint. I see Clem's diplomacy when he says "not sure they're right or wrong". Obviously they are wrong in many ways. One of them is that I can't even change the pointer. I'm not sure this is going against the exact purpose of GNOME 3, which is to stablish a "cohesive, clean and new experience" for the desktop.

GNOME 3 developers may interpret this as a confrontation, because what is going to be deployed as default is actually what GNOME guys WERE NOT intending to deploy at all.

The consensus so far for Ubuntu and Mint: G3 is a better stack and better backend. However, none of them have accepted the what the real purpose of GNOME 3 was. Only Fedora (the mighty beloved distro who blew everything, according to ESR) jumped the boat first, and deployed G3, in the vanilla way.

I'm sad by all of this. I'm actually considering W7 as main OS now. I may do some stupid moves. Free software is so cool, but what is the point when it gets in your way. I will need a new hard drive to make this move, so I have to wait a bit.

Linux distros were so fragmented, and now, with this new desktop dilema, they become ever more fragmented and confusing. We should have no choice, in the practical sense. One desktop to bind it all. This is the only way we can make Linux succeed. Not sure now if we were 1% of user share. GNOME 3 was deployed with this in mind - no choice, conquer the world. I would have appreciated if it was not this whole revolution.

Happy news is that Ubuntu has been placed SECOND on distrowatch.com, and after MANY years on the top. I hope that Mark Shuttleworth enjoys this one with many beers.

(And I hope this topic is free of lemur2, which will say something about KDE).

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RE: GNOME 3 Revenge
by ebasconp on Sat 5th Nov 2011 00:29 in reply to "GNOME 3 Revenge"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

That's why I moved to xubuntu ;) xfce really rocks these times! ;)

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RE[2]: GNOME 3 Revenge
by Sauron on Sat 5th Nov 2011 04:44 in reply to "RE: GNOME 3 Revenge"
Sauron Member since:
2005-08-02

"How do we make people like Gnome 3?

How about. Set it on fire! ;)

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RE[2]: GNOME 3 Revenge
by Kivada on Sat 5th Nov 2011 06:50 in reply to "RE: GNOME 3 Revenge"
Kivada Member since:
2010-07-07

That's why I moved to xubuntu ;) xfce really rocks these times! ;)


After installin Ubuntu Studio which now uses XFCE I cannot agree, has me pulling a Clarckson at the Mate PPA. https://launchpad.net/~amanas/+archive/mate-desktop *rocking back and forth yelling "COME ON, FASTER!!!" at the screen* just as Jezza does in the hope that the car will magically go faster.

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RE[2]: GNOME 3 Revenge
by marcp on Sat 5th Nov 2011 08:16 in reply to "RE: GNOME 3 Revenge"
marcp Member since:
2007-11-23

Fully agreed! XFCE is super-duper cool! Every version is only better, not more complicated. I love the way they give new features while leaving the layout and look on the same level for you to decide.

Thank you, XFCE team!

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RE: GNOME 3 Revenge
by RawMustard on Sat 5th Nov 2011 11:24 in reply to "GNOME 3 Revenge"
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

This is the only way we can make Linux succeed

Succeed at what exactly? For me Linux is the ultimate success story, fit's my needs to a tee ;)

I don't use gnome, haven't for 10 years or KDE either.

I laugh at all this gnome whining, everyone knew they were morons years ago. You have so much choice with linux to put together a functional, working, ultimate, desktop, it's not funny.

I'm only a dumb chippy and I can do it, what's wrong with all the folks that whine constantly?

The system I'm typing this from is Debian Wheezy upgraded from Squeeze, upgraded from Lenny, upgraded from... Well you get the picture, it's over 7 years old and does anything I want.

Choose a distro that lets you roll over and a window manager that is flexible enough to do what you need and just keep on growing with the system as you go. It's not hard and you avoid idiots forcing crap on you that just makes life difficult, it's too easy with a bit of lateral thinking!

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RE[2]: GNOME 3 Revenge
by Jason Bourne on Sat 5th Nov 2011 17:22 in reply to "RE: GNOME 3 Revenge"
Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

I'm not sure you got the point. I think you didn't. GNOME 3 + MSGE is actually what we've been waiting for, and what GNOME guys don't want.

At this point, there may be some gnome-dev-soul damning the day which extensions were allowed.

We need cohesive, sane interfaces. We don't need choice. Not to the absurdity level. You seem to be happy having Linux desktop market share at 1%. I am not.

I whine because Microsoft and Apple deserve better punches on their stomach. What we have now is a medium size slim competitor, who gets knocked down every now and then, by decisions his own trainer takes.

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RE: GNOME 3 Revenge
by juzzlin on Mon 7th Nov 2011 09:04 in reply to "GNOME 3 Revenge"
juzzlin Member since:
2011-05-06

Happy news is that Ubuntu has been placed SECOND on distrowatch.com, and after MANY years on the top. I hope that Mark Shuttleworth enjoys this one with many beers.


Please do understand that Distrowatch only counts clicks from its visitors and thus means nothing. Just check for example Google Trends:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+linux+mint

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