Linked by David Adams on Sun 6th Nov 2011 04:34 UTC
Linux While it may seem like Linux-only projects are betraying their loyal base by developing Windows or OSX versions, I would argue that cross-platform development is actually better for Linux as a whole, better for individual software projects and their developers, and ultimately better for Linux users.
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Comment by Gone fishing
by Gone fishing on Sun 6th Nov 2011 07:51 UTC
Gone fishing
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2006-02-22

Good article - and one I largely agree with, my experience suggests that people have little difficulty in changing to Linux, in fact they usually prefer Linux - if they are working with familiar applications.

Mozilla, VNC, Skype, Google World, and the GIMP etc being applications that are found in Windows makes the transition easier.

Giving up MS Office, Nero etc for Open-source equivalents does not.

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RE: Comment by Gone fishing
by Phil2 on Sun 6th Nov 2011 14:21 in reply to "Comment by Gone fishing"
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2010-05-26

Except GIMP developers don't care for Windows. Some people figured how to compile it for Windows, but such builds are unofficial and unsupported.

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RE: Comment by Gone fishing
by westlake on Sun 6th Nov 2011 17:26 in reply to "Comment by Gone fishing"
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2010-01-07

Mozilla, VNC, Skype, Google World, and the GIMP etc being applications that are found in Windows makes the transition easier.


It makes the move unecessary.

There are enormous economies of scale at play in Windows.

By the time product reaches retail shelves, the OEM Windows system install is - for all practical purposes - free.

Walmart.com sells a 3.4 GHz i7 desktop wth 16 GB RAM and a 2 TB HDD for $1000.

A beast like this running Win 7 is a damn capable machine at a mass-market price. It will be easy to secure and easy to manage no matter how often the geek pretends otherwise.

23" monitor included.

After-market sales of hardware, software, accessories and services are huge.

There is no dual inventory and support structure to maintain.

This why the geek goes into cardiac arrest when anyone mentions "secure booting."

The only leverage he has to drive adoption of Linux is affordable commodity PC hardware.

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unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

The "free' Windows software is an illusion. Every few years the Windows PC owner must buy new hardware to run the latest version. Don't forget the new versions of Office, McAfee, Norton, Nero etc which are also purchased by most users.

My 5yo home built PC still runs Ubuntu 11.04 as well as it ran Ubuntu 6.10 back in 2006. I haven't spent a cent on software and have only replaced a hard drive and PSU (which was over 10 years old). It will probably still easily meet the minimum hardware requirements for Linux for another 10-15 years.

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RE[2]: Comment by Gone fishing
by JAlexoid on Mon 7th Nov 2011 11:03 in reply to "RE: Comment by Gone fishing"
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2009-05-19

A $1000 machine is a mass-market price? What are you smoking there? It's either premium or overpowered.

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RE: Comment by Gone fishing
by ggeldenhuys on Sun 6th Nov 2011 21:52 in reply to "Comment by Gone fishing"
ggeldenhuys Member since:
2006-11-13

Mozilla, VNC, Skype, Google World, and the GIMP etc being applications that are found in Windows makes the transition easier.

The transatition might be easier, as long as they don't expect the same performance and features. Mozilla crippled under Linux compared to Windows. Skype crippled under Linux compared to Windows etc. etc.

Giving up MS Office, Nero etc for Open-source equivalents does not.

You do know Nero Linux existed for many years so far. I have bought v3 & upgraded to v4 when it came out. It's my CD/DVD writing software of choice under Linux. BUT, it doesn't come close to the functionality of the Windows version! :-(

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RE[2]: Comment by Gone fishing
by sgtrock on Mon 7th Nov 2011 16:25 in reply to "RE: Comment by Gone fishing"
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2011-05-13

You're still using Nero? Wow. I gave that up for k3b a long, LONG time ago. Much easier to use app, IMO. Well worth taking a look.

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RE: Comment by Gone fishing
by diegoviola on Sun 6th Nov 2011 22:31 in reply to "Comment by Gone fishing"
diegoviola Member since:
2006-08-15

Good article - and one I largely agree with, my experience suggests that people have little difficulty in changing to Linux, in fact they usually prefer Linux - if they are working with familiar applications.

Mozilla, VNC, Skype, Google World, and the GIMP etc being applications that are found in Windows makes the transition easier.

Giving up MS Office, Nero etc for Open-source equivalents does not.


MS Office? I can't recall when was the last time I used that. I'd rather use LibreOffice or Vim+LaTeX any day. Both are very good, and they don't lock me to proprietary formats.

Nero? I think there is a Linux version, I also heard K3b is very good. However, I still prefer USB flash drives rather than optical media.

I find USB flash drives easier to work with and more reliable.

Also, if you really *must* use a Windows application, there is always virtualization as well.

Edited 2011-11-06 22:37 UTC

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RE: Comment by Gone fishing
by lemur2 on Mon 7th Nov 2011 04:07 in reply to "Comment by Gone fishing"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Good article - and one I largely agree with, my experience suggests that people have little difficulty in changing to Linux, in fact they usually prefer Linux - if they are working with familiar applications. Mozilla, VNC, Skype, Google World, and the GIMP etc being applications that are found in Windows makes the transition easier. Giving up MS Office, Nero etc for Open-source equivalents does not.


While MS Office is perhaps a little easier to use than LibreOffice, there isn't much in it.

K3B is at least as good as Nero.

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