Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 22nd Oct 2005 03:07 UTC, submitted by carbon-12
Windows After roughly 12 years of work, the Wine Project is about to take its widely used Windows translation layer to a place it has not been in all that time: beta. Wine Project leader Alexandre Julliard, who has worked on the software nearly since its beginning in 1993 and maintained it since 1994, said in an interview yesterday that the beta release is "a matter of days away." He has since updated that forecast and said it would be released on Tuesday, October 25th.
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so??
by on Sat 22nd Oct 2005 10:48 UTC

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okay..good on you guys. Personally, I think wine is a bandaid. It allows us to use stuff that we wish ran native, and thats okay for you guys that use macromedia flash, photoshop etc. Personally i would rather just not use windows apps. If the big software houses want us to use their apps, let them spend the money and port it to GNU/linux systems.

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RE: so??
by on Sat 22nd Oct 2005 12:18 in reply to "so??"
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okay..good on you guys. Personally, I think wine is a bandaid. It allows us to use stuff that we wish ran native, and thats okay for you guys that use macromedia flash, photoshop etc. Personally i would rather just not use windows apps. If the big software houses want us to use their apps, let them spend the money and port it to GNU/linux systems.

The point of Wine is that it becomes possible to integrate those last few 'missing' programs...not to stop development on ports.

* Some apps won't be ported.

* Some apps will be ported, but not soon.

* Wine can be used to port apps -- even to non-x86 platforms.

Costs are an issue. Create the market with Wine, show that there is interest, and native ports will follow.

Note: Before you drag up 'it did not work for OS/2' I'll agree on OS/2 being damaged by the Windows compatability layer they had. The situations are entirely different here, though.

1. IBM promoted that everything would run; a better DOS than DOS, a better Windows than Windows. For a few years, they were right.

2. IBM did not have rights to the code; Microsoft did. Opps!

3. When MS changed the APIs, IBM had the choice of abandoning MS's code or reinventing it from scratch.

4. In the case of OS/2, OS/2 wasn't established and even IBM wavered or abandoned it at times.

None of these apply to the Wine project;

1. The Wine project only cares about specific apps running, not everything.

2. The Wine project wrote the code themselves; MS can't take it away.

3. If the APIs change -- and they are -- they will be addressed on an app-by-app basis.

4. The Wine project is supported by quite a few groups -- Codeweavers and React OS as two very interested and dependent groups. As Wine is an open source project, as long as people and entities are interested, Wine will continue to be developed.

Besides, if you can get legacy programs working under Linux or BSD with Wine, you can move off of Windows and don't care about the current twists in the Windows API wars.

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