Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 10th Nov 2011 20:45 UTC, submitted by Straylight
Oracle and SUN I just emerged, blinking, from the world of Skyrim, only to realise Sun Oracle has released the 11th version of Solaris (well, technically it's the 7th, but okay, we'll roll with it). I'll be honest and upfront about it: Solaris is totally out of my league, and as such, it's very hard for me to properly summarise what this release is all about, so I won't even try.
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Cloud
by lucas_maximus on Thu 10th Nov 2011 21:05 UTC
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2009-08-18

Thom you obviously don't understand what the "cloud" is.

The internet isn't the cloud, the cloud it is more like the time sharing stuff of the 70s.

It is more "pay to do stuff" on someone else's computer network.

Edited 2011-11-10 21:09 UTC

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RE: Cloud
by ebasconp on Thu 10th Nov 2011 21:40 in reply to "Cloud"
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2006-05-09

The internet isn't the cloud


That is arguable. I don't like the "Cloud" word used in this context. "Services available through Internet" sounds more accurate, more buzz free and more "back to the ground".

When someone says "Cloud" I always remember Web 2.0 and AJAX and other artificially created marketing/press terms calling something already existing but with a more sophisticated name.

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RE[2]: Cloud
by lucas_maximus on Thu 10th Nov 2011 22:07 in reply to "RE: Cloud"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

That is arguable. I don't like the "Cloud" word used in this context. "Services available through Internet" sounds more accurate, more buzz free and more "back to the ground".


It is a bit of a buzzword however what it means is quite well defined IMO.

When someone says "Cloud" I always remember Web 2.0 and AJAX and other artificially created marketing/press terms calling something already existing but with a more sophisticated name.


Web 2.0 maybe (TBH I think everyone accepts that WEB 2.0 means user generated content) ... AJAX no ... While there was other ways of updating the page from another server they were extremely hackish.

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RE: Cloud
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Thu 10th Nov 2011 22:30 in reply to "Cloud"
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2006-07-14

The definition of the cloud is quite murky and ill defined.

From a consumer's perspective ( drop box, google docs, icloud) are " the cloud". How does anyone know that this "cloud" isn't just a single server? How is it different from the internet in this case?

From a service provider's stand point: architecture with high scalability and availability.

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RE[2]: Cloud
by JAlexoid on Thu 10th Nov 2011 23:10 in reply to "RE: Cloud"
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2009-05-19

How about - omniavailalbe services? (From the consumer side, obviously)

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RE[2]: Cloud
by lucas_maximus on Thu 10th Nov 2011 23:43 in reply to "RE: Cloud"
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2009-08-18

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing

Cloud computing provides computation, software, data access, and storage services that do not require end-user knowledge of the physical location and configuration of the system that delivers the services. Parallel to this concept can be drawn with the electricity grid, wherein end-users consume power without needing to understand the component devices or infrastructure required to provide the service.


I think that is the important difference.

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RE: Cloud
by Vanders on Thu 10th Nov 2011 23:31 in reply to "Cloud"
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2005-07-06

From my point of view, "Cloud" is as simple as "Someone else worries about your infrastructure". Then again I may be biased, as I work for HP Cloud Services, and I'm one of the someone's who has to worry about it for you...

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RE[2]: Cloud
by lucas_maximus on Thu 10th Nov 2011 23:51 in reply to "RE: Cloud"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Well some people on here think Wordpress is part of the cloud.

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RE: Cloud
by OSGuy on Fri 11th Nov 2011 05:31 in reply to "Cloud"
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2006-01-01

You don't necessarily need to pay (will not with money at least) -- you are paying with your personal data being exposed.

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