Linked by Mike on Fri 11th Nov 2011 18:40 UTC
Linux "At long last, it looks like there is an adequate solution to the Active State Power Management (ASPM) problem in the Linux kernel , a.k.a. the well-known and wide-spread power regression in the Linux 2.6.38 kernel, which has been causing many laptops to go through significantly more power than they should. This is not another workaround, but rather a behavioral change in the kernel to better decide when the PCI Express ASPM support should be toggled."
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Gigabyte's response
by senshikaze on Fri 11th Nov 2011 19:08 UTC
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After reading this, I am never going to buy Gigabyte again. You tell your customers to change their OS because you are too lazy to do anything about? Yea, screw that. I don't mean you have to fix it, but don't tell me that I need to switch to Windows as your defacto response. I will just not buy your crappy hardware.

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RE: Gigabyte's response
by Kivada on Sat 12th Nov 2011 09:01 in reply to "Gigabyte's response"
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Not this shit again... As usual Michael Larabel didn't do due diligence and went directly for the sensationalist bullshit "article". If you actually have read what he posted it's plainly obvious he got bottom level script reading cubicle critter probably working in Mumbai that has no clue what he's talking about because it's not in the script.

Had he followed through with requesting a higher level tech or manager or asked one of the Intel or AMD OSS devs or media staff to see if they can hook him up with the relevant contact info we'd have actually gotten a useful bit of information instead of yet another reason to hate Phoronix as the blight on the Open Source community that Michael Larabel has made it...

Gigabyte is one of the biggest backers of the Coreboot(Formerly LinuxBIOS) but like EVERY mobo manufacturer out there never expressly states anything other then the current version of Windows as being supported, for anything else you are on your own, which is usually fine on the desktop since it's pretty easy to find out what all is on the board and look up if it has OSS drivers so everything from Haiku to Plan9 will boot. Mobile is still another story entirely and things are always a little sketchy if you don't get something from from Zareason or System76.

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RE: Gigabyte's response
by bassbeast on Sun 13th Nov 2011 17:29 in reply to "Gigabyte's response"
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If this bothers you friend stick with AMD CPUs. AMD has already announced their future boards will be built around coreboot which is FOSS. For the first time you'll have the possibility of having the entire machine from the BIOS up completely open to modification if that is your desire.

As for TFA? Its an OEM thing and NOT a Windows thing. I have run into plenty of OEM boards with corners cut that certain versions of Windows wouldn't run either without serious hacks or workaround because some PHB thought it would be a great idea to leave critical settings out of the BIOS. Who can forget such classics as the Sony laptops that had Intel chips that support VT but had it turned off in BIOS with NO way to turn it back on, or the lovely eMachines units where you HAD to have perfectly matched RAM or it wouldn't read one slot because it would automatically try to go into dual mode with two chips, again with NO way to change it?

The key is to stick with OEMs that give you plenty of options like ECS and Asus and if you care about openness go AMD with coreboot. Otherwise you are rolling the dice.

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RE[2]: Gigabyte's response
by Lennie on Mon 14th Nov 2011 11:00 in reply to "RE: Gigabyte's response"
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AMD has already announced their future boards will be built around coreboot which is FOSS.

That is not how I would put it. As I understand it they will deliver the people and documentation necessary so that coreboot can be used on all their boards.

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