Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Nov 2011 22:17 UTC
Multimedia, AV "Yesterday, Logitech hosted an Analyst and Investor Day and during his remarks, CEO Guerrino De Luca pulled absolutely no punches in describing the 'mistakes' the company made with its Logitech Revue Google TV set top box. Calling the company's Christmas 2010 launch 'a mistake of implementation of a gigantic nature', De Luca told investors that the company had 'brought closure to the Logitech Revue saga' by making plans to let inventory run out this quarter and that there are 'no plans to introduce another box to replace Revue'."
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*TV = Failed product
by Neolander on Sat 12th Nov 2011 08:29 UTC
Neolander
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2010-03-08

Apple has failed, Google has failed... Maybe it's time to consider the idea that people are not interested in a crippled mac mini to plug in their TV. That the functionality is simply not worth the financial cost, encumbrance, and setup time.

The idea of extra TV features may have potential, though, but only if people don't buy an expensive product just for them. That is, if the features are integrated in another product or service : a good TV set, a video game console, or an ADSL plan.

Just saying...

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RE: *TV = Failed product
by ricegf on Sat 12th Nov 2011 13:14 in reply to "*TV = Failed product"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

Yes, it's almost as if TV and computing are divergent product categories.

I was rather enthused about the concept of MeeGo on both TV and mobile platforms, mostly due to expectations that they would interact at least somewhat seamlessly. But not much progress was made before it faded into the sunset.

Perhaps the vision just fundamentally clashes with reality. Haven't thought it through yet, but still disappointed. Oh, well.

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RE[2]: *TV = Failed product
by Neolander on Sat 12th Nov 2011 14:52 in reply to "RE: *TV = Failed product"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I'm not sure they are fundamentally incompatible, but I think that there is one remote and AUX channel too much in current solutions, where you have a TV and a separate box connected to it.

The AUX channel problem would be addressed by bringing back a very useful feature of the analog days. In the past, it was possible to make TVs switch to any connected SCART device (VCR, paid television decoder) simply by turning said device on. Why was that functionality removed in the HDMI successor ? I have no idea.

As for inconsistent remote workflow, I have seen IP TV setups which use a handful of dedicated remote buttons (channel grid, enter, exit, and arrows) to great effect. Guess other "smart TV" devices should take inspiration from that.

And then there is again the issue of convenience. The core reason why my parents use TV over ADSL and not a better-working satellite setup, to the best of my knowledge, is that with ADSL, you subscribe to a monthly plan with the ISP, they give you a white box to connect to your router and TV, and it (mostly) works. Satellite is far from beating this setup simplicity and low initial cost.

If so many video game consoles have managed to deal well with TV sets, it proves that computer-TV interaction is possible, if done properly ;)

Edited 2011-11-12 14:53 UTC

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RE: *TV = Failed product
by tomcat on Mon 14th Nov 2011 23:30 in reply to "*TV = Failed product"
tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Apple has failed, Google has failed... Maybe it's time to consider the idea that people are not interested in a crippled mac mini to plug in their TV. That the functionality is simply not worth the financial cost, encumbrance, and setup time.

The idea of extra TV features may have potential, though, but only if people don't buy an expensive product just for them. That is, if the features are integrated in another product or service : a good TV set, a video game console, or an ADSL plan.

Just saying...


Here's a really bad bit of news for Apple and Google.

Gamebeat: Game consoles most popular device for watching online content on a TV screen

http://venturebeat.com/2011/11/07/report-game-consoles-most-popular...

Jobs didn't "crack TV" at all. I don't think he really ever understood it. There is a convergence device, but it's probably the same one being used to play videogames every day: the game console.

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