"Yesterday, Logitech hosted an Analyst and Investor Day and during his remarks, CEO Guerrino De Luca pulled absolutely no punches in describing the 'mistakes' the company made with its Logitech Revue Google TV set top box. Calling the company's Christmas 2010 launch 'a mistake of implementation of a gigantic nature', De Luca told investors that the company had 'brought closure to the Logitech Revue saga' by making plans to let inventory run out this quarter and that there are 'no plans to introduce another box to replace Revue'."
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Member since:2010-03-08
I'm not sure they are fundamentally incompatible, but I think that there is one remote and AUX channel too much in current solutions, where you have a TV and a separate box connected to it.
The AUX channel problem would be addressed by bringing back a very useful feature of the analog days. In the past, it was possible to make TVs switch to any connected SCART device (VCR, paid television decoder) simply by turning said device on. Why was that functionality removed in the HDMI successor ? I have no idea.
As for inconsistent remote workflow, I have seen IP TV setups which use a handful of dedicated remote buttons (channel grid, enter, exit, and arrows) to great effect. Guess other "smart TV" devices should take inspiration from that.
And then there is again the issue of convenience. The core reason why my parents use TV over ADSL and not a better-working satellite setup, to the best of my knowledge, is that with ADSL, you subscribe to a monthly plan with the ISP, they give you a white box to connect to your router and TV, and it (mostly) works. Satellite is far from beating this setup simplicity and low initial cost.
If so many video game consoles have managed to deal well with TV sets, it proves that computer-TV interaction is possible, if done properly 
Edited 2011-11-12 14:53 UTC
Member since:2007-04-25
You're probably right. I wonder if the concern is the possibility that convergence would simplify copying?
And Big Media is so focused on protecting their share of the pie from copyright infringers that they are artificially limiting the size of the pie. Penny wise but pound foolish, as they say.
Member since:2009-03-11
HDMI does have a feature called "CEC" that allows mutual control between the TV and devices. Unfortunately it really only works when both are the same brand. Each brands has its own name for the implementation. Sony is "BRAVIA Sync", Samsung is "Anynet+" for example. I used to have a Sony BD player on a BRAVIA TV and it worked wonderfully. Turning on, switching to the correct AUX, turning off. And either remote could cover 100% of the control of the other without any setup. Also a BRAVIA TV remote can control the BD playing functions of a PS3 slim.
I replaced the TV with a Samusung one and now the only thing that works is the TV turning on when the BD player does. I'm seriously considering changing the BD player just for that reason. Maybe I'll find a person who's in the reverse situation and would like to trade.
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"Windows is indeed slower than other operating systems in many scenarios, and the gap is worsening." That's one way to start an insider explanation of why Windows' performance isn't up to snuff. Written by someone who actually contributes code to the Windows NT kernel, the comment on Hacker News, later deleted but reposted with permission on Marc Bevand's blog, paints a very dreary picture of the state of Windows development. The root issue? Think of how Linux is developed, and you'll know the answer.
This is one of those news items that's fun to write, fun to read, fun to comment on, and where no one will be able to say anything unkind. It's all just one big ball of awesome fluffiness. TuneTracker, the BeOS radio automation software, has just released something very special: TuneTracker System 5, the first version designed entirely and specifically for Haiku. In fact, it actually includes Haiku in the software package. Better yet, TuneTracker also unveiled several system-in-a-box products - which have Haiku and TuneTracker pre-installed.
Exactly twenty years ago, a document was published that played a huge role in establishing the web as we know it today. Twenty years later, and this simple and straightforward document is proof of an irrefutable fact: while closed technologies can change markets, open technologies can change the world.Oh multitasking. That staple of computing that got thrown out the window with many modern smartphones. We got some rudimentary thing in its place - but even as multitasking on phone and tablets improves, its user-visible side remains cumbersome. Windows 8 has a neat implementation, and now it's time Android follows in it footsteps.They're here! Whether that excites you or not remains to be seen, but the Galaxy S4, which will most likely become the best selling Android smartphone of the year by a huge margin, has been reviewed by all the major sites, and there's lots of interesting conclusions in there - although I think most of you will get the gist.Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.
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2007-04-25
Yes, it's almost as if TV and computing are divergent product categories.
I was rather enthused about the concept of MeeGo on both TV and mobile platforms, mostly due to expectations that they would interact at least somewhat seamlessly. But not much progress was made before it faded into the sunset.
Perhaps the vision just fundamentally clashes with reality. Haven't thought it through yet, but still disappointed. Oh, well.