Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Nov 2011 22:17 UTC
Multimedia, AV "Yesterday, Logitech hosted an Analyst and Investor Day and during his remarks, CEO Guerrino De Luca pulled absolutely no punches in describing the 'mistakes' the company made with its Logitech Revue Google TV set top box. Calling the company's Christmas 2010 launch 'a mistake of implementation of a gigantic nature', De Luca told investors that the company had 'brought closure to the Logitech Revue saga' by making plans to let inventory run out this quarter and that there are 'no plans to introduce another box to replace Revue'."
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RE[2]: *TV = Failed product
by Neolander on Sat 12th Nov 2011 14:52 UTC in reply to "RE: *TV = Failed product"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

I'm not sure they are fundamentally incompatible, but I think that there is one remote and AUX channel too much in current solutions, where you have a TV and a separate box connected to it.

The AUX channel problem would be addressed by bringing back a very useful feature of the analog days. In the past, it was possible to make TVs switch to any connected SCART device (VCR, paid television decoder) simply by turning said device on. Why was that functionality removed in the HDMI successor ? I have no idea.

As for inconsistent remote workflow, I have seen IP TV setups which use a handful of dedicated remote buttons (channel grid, enter, exit, and arrows) to great effect. Guess other "smart TV" devices should take inspiration from that.

And then there is again the issue of convenience. The core reason why my parents use TV over ADSL and not a better-working satellite setup, to the best of my knowledge, is that with ADSL, you subscribe to a monthly plan with the ISP, they give you a white box to connect to your router and TV, and it (mostly) works. Satellite is far from beating this setup simplicity and low initial cost.

If so many video game consoles have managed to deal well with TV sets, it proves that computer-TV interaction is possible, if done properly ;)

Edited 2011-11-12 14:53 UTC

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RE[3]: *TV = Failed product
by ricegf on Sat 12th Nov 2011 16:24 in reply to "RE[2]: *TV = Failed product"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

You're probably right. I wonder if the concern is the possibility that convergence would simplify copying?

And Big Media is so focused on protecting their share of the pie from copyright infringers that they are artificially limiting the size of the pie. Penny wise but pound foolish, as they say.

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RE[3]: *TV = Failed product
by ElCabri2 on Sun 13th Nov 2011 17:09 in reply to "RE[2]: *TV = Failed product"
ElCabri2 Member since:
2009-03-11

HDMI does have a feature called "CEC" that allows mutual control between the TV and devices. Unfortunately it really only works when both are the same brand. Each brands has its own name for the implementation. Sony is "BRAVIA Sync", Samsung is "Anynet+" for example. I used to have a Sony BD player on a BRAVIA TV and it worked wonderfully. Turning on, switching to the correct AUX, turning off. And either remote could cover 100% of the control of the other without any setup. Also a BRAVIA TV remote can control the BD playing functions of a PS3 slim.

I replaced the TV with a Samusung one and now the only thing that works is the TV turning on when the BD player does. I'm seriously considering changing the BD player just for that reason. Maybe I'll find a person who's in the reverse situation and would like to trade.

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