Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 15th Nov 2011 22:32 UTC
Intel You may not realise it, but today one of the most important pieces of technology celebrates its 40th birthday. In November 15, 1971, a company called Intel released its Intel 4004 processor - the first single-chip microprocessor, and one of the most important milestones in computer history.
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RE[2]: Congratulations!
by transputer_guy on Wed 16th Nov 2011 21:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Congratulations!"
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That's one pretty angry sentiment and mostly wrong.

You seem to have a fix on VIA as if they are angels too, it's not as if Taiwan doesn't have it own huge empires that dominate the world in motherboards and PC production through China. These companies are often setup up in a way that would alarm most westerners, typically one family member each has a company to run, VIA is the wife, and the husband is another giant. Nepotism is the word there. At Intel you will find engineers and managers of every race and nationality (I don't work there). In any Taiwanese empire you will find mostly, well try guessing.

Yes Intel did get into legal trouble for aggressive marketing and that's why AMD still has some part of the pie but it has to fight it out in the market for that slice. Netburst was crap, they got over it, every company makes mistakes and learns from it or dies.

Besides x86 and ARM, there are many other processors still out there mostly in the embedded area. In my own humble opinion, the future looks much better for ARM in tablets, phones and the embedded space than it does for Intel/AMD in PCs, its volume vs margin. With the gradual switch to slimmer PC/Tablets, I see only huge growth for the ARM and timid growth for x86. The ARM industry has at least a dozen vendors in it and looks quite healthy.

The term CPU predates Intel by a long time, even in those days IBM, Bouroughs, ICL and many others were building CPUs built with many discrete standard logic chips and custom chips. The 4004 was only half way to a whole CPU with very limited performance, and stuffed into a 14pin DRAM package because that was available. Pins were very expensive in those days, but the more you wanted to do good CPU design, the more pins you needed in the package, that had to wait awhile for the 40pin DIP and the switch to NMOS.

Congratulations are really due to the entire industry.

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RE[3]: Congratulations!
by bassbeast on Sun 20th Nov 2011 10:34 in reply to "RE[2]: Congratulations!"
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Wow you are so wrong I don't even know where to begin on your wrongness. Intel wasn't "aggressive" they BRIBED THE OEMS which several OEMs admitted under oath. One likened Intel kickbacks to "cocaine" and there were several quarters during the price wars where the ONLY profits Dell had were Intel kickbacks.

Also you might want to look up "Intel rigs compilers" to see how by simply changing the CPUID on ANY Intel chip from "Genuine Intel" to "Authentic AMD" suddenly the CPU will slow down by nearly 40% on ANY program compiled with the Intel compiler. Wow a single line suddenly causes the entire code to fall apart, how is that possible? Simple Intel is RIGGING their compiler so that ALL code compiled with it, whether the coder wants it or not, looks for the CPUID and if its Intel it gets full SSE up to SSE 3, if not it gets X87 which was depreciated back in 1995!

So this is NOT aggressive marketing, this is complete market rigging. They paid the OEMs massive kickbacks and made it clear those kickbacks were connected with how many AMD chips they carried (which was why you could find Duron/Sempron but not Athlon, as Intel gave them a higher "quota" of Semprons allowed) and when they saw that even the Duron stomped netburst because they had made the pipe too long instead of fixing their problem they rigged the compiler so any CPU that didn't have the right flag got a boat anchor tied to it. Frankly what they did made what MSFT pulled look like a joke and MSFT got put under sanctions for 12 years.

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