Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Nov 2011 23:38 UTC, submitted by sb56637
SuSE, openSUSE And another popular Linux distribution pushes a new release out the door. This time around, it's openSUSE, as they just released version 12.1. Other than the usual latest and greatest version of all the open source desktops and associated tools, there's a few other interesting tidbits in this release as well.
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RE[2]: Well, it looks nice...
by No it isnt on Thu 17th Nov 2011 12:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Well, it looks nice..."
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That's strange. I've set up two Windows 7 desktops for my parents the last year, one Asus and one HP, and both took longer to configure for first boot than doing a complete installation of whatever Linux distro I've tried (possibly excluding Arch). That's for pre-installed OEM versions of Windows 7, and not considering all the crapware and demo versions of constantly malfunctioning virus scanners you have to uninstall to make the computer usable (I don't know why they all seem to prefer crap to the functional Microsoft Security Essentials), or downloading and installing various apps that come with the Linux distro.

Of course, if you disregard the fact that Windows actually needs to be installed and configured and pretend this is something uniquely Linux-y, then Windows wins, hands down. Then again, that's disingenuous.

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RE[3]: Well, it looks nice...
by avgalen on Thu 17th Nov 2011 14:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Well, it looks nice..."
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I never said that Windows supports all hardware out of the box. I mostly have to use Driver-CD's or go online but all the drivers ARE available. For Linux they just aren't, not for all the hardware.

And Windows isn't shorter than Linux to setup, I actually said both take a couple of evenings to do it properly. For Windows it helps a lot to use a "clean" CD, not the Rescue-Partition that contains 25 trials for everything. Then it is a matter of updating the drivers (cd/usb/windows update) and for all the basics. After that some tweaking to make everything look, feel and act like I want to and installing some big tools (Visual Studio, Office) and of course waiting a long time for all the updates to download AND install and reboots

Linux installs in roughly the same time, finding some tools in the repisotories and installing them is easy and fast (latest version, no endless updating) but drivers (even after lots of searching and "helpdesking" I still can't get it to work) take much longer and making every look and work the way I want to is hard (or impossible with the latest Ubuntu's on a 1024x600 netbook display)

I have used Beos in the past and it was fast and beautiful and lacked any security and multi-user and 10 years later Haiku isn't much better (and hardware support......hahahahaha)

I can get work done on Linux and Windows, but not on any other OS. And given that hardware support is task 1 for an OS and Linux still fails on that (again, on many different types of hardware over a 15 year period) I keep being disappointed. I love the Open Source philosophy but am still choosing to run lots of closed source productivity tools on a closed source OS because it just .... is more productive. And since I can use so many Open Source programs on Windows anyway AND there isn't much that I am missing on Windows it is working fine

....but I am a geek that loves trying new stuff and with Linux there is new stuff to try out every couple of months while with Windows things come in major waves

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