Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 17th Nov 2011 08:05 UTC
Legal A New York Times guest editorial titled Stop the Great Firewall of America says "China operates the world's most elaborate and opaque system of Internet censorship. But Congress... is considering misguided legislation that would strengthen China's Great Firewall and even bring major features of it to America." The culprit is the proposed Stop Online Piracy Act. Sounds good until you read that "The bills empower the attorney general to create a blacklist of sites to be blocked by Internet service providers, search engines, payment providers and advertising networks, all without a court hearing or a trial." Rather like the Department of Homeland Security's seizure of websites for copyright violations without the constitutionally-required court orders. If you're not an American citizen, why should you care? Read this Techdirt article telling how the U.S. seized a Spanish domain name that had already been declared legal by the Spanish courts.
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by lelutin on Thu 17th Nov 2011 23:51 UTC
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WTF is wrong with our governments nowadays? (I think I know what you're going to answer to that ;) )

We're seeing a whole lot of stupid changes get into laws that lets enforcing authorities to circumvent the court.
That's actually equivalent to saying that the people promoting this bill want to strip you out of your right to have a decent trial, and also of your right to privacy. We're seeing the same trend here in Canada, and IIRC in Europe it has the same sound to it.

Why the heck would people want to abandon such basic rights? That's what we need to tell others when we want to convince them that all the shit happening in recent bills is plain wrong.

The right to privacy doesn't mean "the right to hide yourself when you commit a crime" like some poeple are implying with the saying "It shouldn't matter if you don't have anything to hide".
The right to privacy is actually a means to slow down police/fbi/whatever enforcing authority from obtaining personal information so that the court can judge whether the evidence or doubt against someone's activity is concrete enough to let them intrude.

Without this right, citizens are absolutely powerless in front of the authorities, and a lot of innocent people face the risk to get sued or imprisoned without a valid reason.

btw, check out this site if you want to add your voice to the opposition in a way:

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by kateline on Mon 21st Nov 2011 18:41 in reply to "WTF?"
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You are so right. For some reason people are confusing getting tough on crime with their basic rights that protect them from false accusation. If we don't need these basic rights, let's just save a lot of money and dispense with the court system altogether. We can just let the police determine who is innocent and guilty!

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