Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 16th Nov 2011 23:38 UTC, submitted by sb56637
SuSE, openSUSE And another popular Linux distribution pushes a new release out the door. This time around, it's openSUSE, as they just released version 12.1. Other than the usual latest and greatest version of all the open source desktops and associated tools, there's a few other interesting tidbits in this release as well.
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in summary
by unclefester on Fri 18th Nov 2011 10:47 UTC
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The topic so far. Linux is a piece of shite because:

a) It doesn't support my obscure bit of hardware.

RTFM. If the hardware isn't supported don't try and install Linux.

Guess what. Windows out of the box has basically zero hardware support. To run Windows you need to download drivers.

b) Linux can't autodetect my four separate disks with 27 partitions and six different distros properly.

Ever heard of a virtual machine?

c) Linux didn't set up my partitions the way I wanted.

The installer isn't a fscking mind reader. You usually need to manually partition using something like Gparted for an unusual setup.

d) My distro is unstable.

Don't use the latest bleeding edge distro if you want stability.

e) Linux won't play my .wmv encoded porn.

Why are you using Fedora or Opensuse?

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RE: in summary
by silviucc on Fri 18th Nov 2011 17:36 in reply to "in summary"
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Dude, i never said it failed to detect anything. It found partitions just fine. I was complaining about the fact that even if I chose to do my own partitioning, the installer would not let me assign mount points because it had assigned those earlier, while it was being "smart"

I would have expected it to "unset" anything it had set and let me do my own thing.

I was also complaining that it would not let me set the drive where I wanted (while still being in manual partitioning mode) to install GRUB. It wanted to go to /dev/sda and that's that.

Also, a virtual machine is not an option. If I want to test how well stuff runs under say, Crossover Games, I would not get very far now, would I.

PS: Any idea on why the heck it assumes that my machine time is in UTC even though the checkbox for this option is not checked ?

Yeah, I know,I did not RTFM...

Strange how some distros manage to make installing fast and almost idiot proof while still allowing for flexibility when it is needed and some make you fight them even while attempting installation. Must be a "for the pros thing".

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RE: in summary
by avgalen on Fri 18th Nov 2011 17:38 in reply to "in summary"
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a) No, we are not complaining that OBSCURE pieces of hardware aren't working. We are complaining that perfectly normal and common pieces of hardware aren't working (Intel ICH5R comes to mind immediately, Intel 945 on Suse was mentioned). But most importantly, we are complaining that hardware that IS working on Windows is NOT working on Linux.
[copy/paste]I will repeat it one more time: OUT OF THE BOX Windows might or might not support the hardware, but there is always a driver-cd, windows update driver or a driver on the manufacturers website so you WILL get ALL your hardware working.
OUT OF THE BOX Linux might or might not support the hardware, by searching online or adding alternative repositories (binary drivers) you can add some more driver support but I have NEVER gotten ALL hardware working

b/c) No, the complaint wasn't that the installer couldn't partition 27 partitions according to what he had in his mind. The complaint was that the installer crashed in several modes and when it finally wanted to work it messed up the partitioning!

d) don't mark a product as final when it isn't stable

e) so I can download and watch porn without having to be afraid of viruses ;)

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RE[2]: in summary
by unclefester on Fri 18th Nov 2011 21:07 in reply to "RE: in summary"
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How can you possibly blame Linux because Intel doesn't provide drivers?

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