Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 17th Nov 2011 23:20 UTC
Legal The saga surrounding SOPA will be dominating the headlines for a while yet, and today is no different. First of all, and most importantly, the European Parliament has adopted a resolution against SOPA, while also calling for net neutrality to become part of EU law. Second, and this is also interesting, we now have a list of software companies which are against freedom of speech on the web. Unsurprisingly, Apple and Microsoft are on this list. Update: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has spoken out against SOPA. Update II: Tumbler's anti-SOPA message on their website generated almost 90000 (!) phone calls to representatives. Amazing.
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RE[3]: Good on the EU!
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 18th Nov 2011 13:04 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Good on the EU! "
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

It's not crap. This divide into three regions is actually pretty damn accurate - especially the Catholic vs. Protestant countries. Don't be fooled by the religion-based dividing line - this is about *cultural* differences, not *religious* differences. A better way may be to say Germanic+Nordic countries vs. Romanic countries.

However, fact remains: Protestant/Germanic+Nordic countries have very sound financial policies and very little corruption. Catholic/Romanic countries, on the other hand...

Edited 2011-11-18 13:05 UTC

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RE[4]: Good on the EU!
by Morgan on Fri 18th Nov 2011 14:56 in reply to "RE[3]: Good on the EU! "
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

However, fact remains: Protestant/Germanic+Nordic countries have very sound financial policies and very little corruption.


Oh how I wish that were so in the U.S.! The American Catholic church, of course, has come under fire in the past decade for corruption and conspiracy surrounding the sexual allegations against church leaders.

The Protestants are perhaps a little better on those grounds, but they overwhelmingly (especially here in the southern states) want to stay in the early 20th century as far as morality law is concerned, and corruption among Protestants is rampant at the state and local level all across the country.

On both sides, there's no such thing as fiscal responsibility at the moment.

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As an aside, I find it quite odd that there are more than a few Catholic congress members but so far only one Catholic president, and it was quite controversial when he was elected. Then again, we've had Unitarian and (suspected) atheist presidents too. In the distant past, some chose not to affiliate with a church until they left office, and some were accused of being one thing (atheist, Deist, etc) when they were actually of a more common Christian background.

Gotta love this country of ours. *rolls eyes*

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RE[4]: Good on the EU!
by demosthenese on Fri 18th Nov 2011 15:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Good on the EU! "
demosthenese Member since:
2011-02-01

France? Belgium? I wouldn't class as corrupt. What about Eire? Huge financial mess but not a country I would count as suffering from corruption.

Is southern Germany more corrupt than northern Germany? Or has this nothing more to do with religion than the commenter's own religious prejudice.

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RE[5]: Good on the EU!
by pgeorgi on Fri 18th Nov 2011 18:49 in reply to "RE[4]: Good on the EU! "
pgeorgi Member since:
2010-02-18

Is southern Germany more corrupt than northern Germany?

Generally speaking that's true.

Or has this nothing more to do with religion than the commenter's own religious prejudice.

It still has nothing to do with religious prejudice but, as stated in the comment, with culture.

The so-called "christian" party that keeps a stronghold on Bavaria for 50+ years can do pretty much whatever they want (including large scale corruption) and still get reelected with a comfortable margin. But they're weaker these days and need a minor partner, and in the other southern state they've been shown the door in March.

Protestants.. well, they protest at some point ;-)


Not saying that there's no corruption in the northern parts of Germany, but either their smarter at hiding their tracks, they're really less corrupt than in the south, or they're dumped more quickly (and thus weigh their benefits by corruption with the risk of losing officed more).

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RE[5]: Good on the EU!
by JAlexoid on Sat 19th Nov 2011 20:47 in reply to "RE[4]: Good on the EU! "
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

I'm culturally Russian Orthodox, why would I place the biggest turd on my own cultural background? Not knowing it is really not the case.

But, hey, unlike most people in the world I have the luxury of being brought up in a wildly multicultural family. And when I say wildly I mean: Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists all mixed but not merged...

What about Eire?

Currently living in Dublin for a few months, I can tell you that the Irish have a very "unique" outlook on corruption. By my standards, which are set to those of Scandinavians, this country has a lot of corruption. In fact, much more than their "orange brethren" from the north.

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RE[5]: Good on the EU!
by Neolander on Sun 20th Nov 2011 11:31 in reply to "RE[4]: Good on the EU! "
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Greetings from France ! Let me introduce you to Areva, Servier, l'Oréal, and their friends in the government ;)

(I personally find this link between former religion and corruption quite suspictious, but I wouldn't say that we have no serious corruption problems in France)

Edited 2011-11-20 11:40 UTC

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