Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Nov 2011 21:39 UTC
Windows The Windows 8 blog has a post about the improvements in Windows 8's installation process. "For Windows 8, our goal was to continue to improve reliability while also improving the installation experience and raw performance. Not only did we want it to be rock solid, but also faster and easier to use." Thankfully, the features us geeks like are still there.
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"us geeks?"
by celt on Tue 22nd Nov 2011 23:58 UTC
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What "geek" uses Windows?

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RE: "us geeks?"
by WorknMan on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 00:58 in reply to ""us geeks?""
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What "geek" uses Windows?

Geeks use Windows for gaming, *nix for everything else. Power users use Windows to get work done ;)

Oh, if you're wondering what the difference is:

Power user: 'What are the shortcut keys for this app? How do I customize the toolbar?'

Geek: 'What toolkit is this app written in? What software license does it use?'

Joe User: Where is the 'any key' ?

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RE: "us geeks?"
by BluenoseJake on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 02:17 in reply to ""us geeks?""
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I use Windows, and Debian, and Ubuntu. Lots of geeks use Windows, and lots don't.

Please don't tell me what I should be using. I use what is best for the job at hand.

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RE[2]: "us geeks?"
by ngaio on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 04:56 in reply to "RE: "us geeks?""
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I love using Ubuntu. I also use Windows, but I do so with a sense of sadness.

The "best for the job at hand" argument is in certain senses appealing, but in the end not very dignified.

For instance, not that long ago in the United States a slave owner could offer a variety of reasons why buying people to work in cotton fields was perfectly legitimate. One of their arguments was that slaves were best for the job at hand, so to speak. Now most of us find those arguments morally repugnant.

I'm not suggesting that the moral arguments regarding Ubuntu versus Windows are black and white. But I am arguing that there is a moral dimension that is truly inescapable.

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RE[2]: "us geeks?"
by leech on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 06:25 in reply to "RE: "us geeks?""
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I use Windows, and Debian, and Ubuntu. Lots of geeks use Windows, and lots don't.

Please don't tell me what I should be using. I use what is best for the job at hand.

I Agree with both of you. Since Windows currently is the best tool for the job at hand when playing games (which is the only reason I use it currently).

I got into an debate today with the Windows Administrator and my manager about the Linux vs. Windows bit, and my manager whipped out driver support. I had to tell him right off that Windows 7 supports less hardware than Linux does. He didn't believe me and also somehow blames Linux for dropping signal on a USB 3G adapter. I think I've determined the only reason it 'seems' that it's dropping the connection and it doesn't in Windows is because Linux has much more responsive network management. You unplug a cable in Linux for a second, and it says "Hey, no connection, plug me back in!!" Windows sits there for about a minute then decides "hey, wait a moment, I think you've unplugged the network... yup pretty sure... Hey, did you? Well.. I think you did. Don't lie to me, I haven't crashed yet... uhm. Yup you DID!!!"

I know this is the case, and it's especially bad in Windows 7. I sit there and watch for a good 2 minutes most times when I first log into Windows 7 and it acts like it's trying to connect to something that should be more or less instant.

Now are they improving the setup experience because they figure like Windows 98, you'll have to reinstall ever 6 months? I always say who cares about the setup, hopefully you'll only ever see it once per computer (if even that for pre-installed systems). What they need to improve is Explorer crashing if you are copying from one internal hard drive to another a large amount of files!

Yes, I've had Explorer hit the 'not responding' and crash when copying from two internal hard drives. I ended up booting into my Arch Linux install and using the ntfs-3g driver to copy the files over. Sad that the Linux coders can make a better ntfs driver than Microsoft who created it.

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