Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Nov 2011 21:39 UTC
Windows The Windows 8 blog has a post about the improvements in Windows 8's installation process. "For Windows 8, our goal was to continue to improve reliability while also improving the installation experience and raw performance. Not only did we want it to be rock solid, but also faster and easier to use." Thankfully, the features us geeks like are still there.
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RE[4]: "us geeks?"
by ngaio on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 08:21 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: "us geeks?""
ngaio
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2005-10-06

Unfortunately you completely misunderstood my point, so I'll say it more clearly. The advantage of using actual historical examples is that they show how quickly societal norms can change.

Point #1: Slavery used to be widely accepted as morally correct. it was very widely practiced in many cultures and places. Buying and selling human beings and putting them to work was considered by many people to be rational, economically efficient and the only conceivable way of organizing large parts of economic life.

Point #2: Nowadays we don't see it that way. There are many other issues one could mention: the rights of ordinary people to participate in political decision-making, rights of women, rights of children, freedom from domestic violence, etc. These issues all have a moral dimension, and society has changed it's moral thinking a great deal in a relatively short space of time.

Point #3: Most people currently don't consider digital rights to be a moral issue, like the person who made the comment I was replying to. They don't care and they don't understand why they should care.

Point #4: Every social issue has a moral dimension, including the use of what OS we use. It just takes a little moral reasoning to see it. Putting one's head in the sand and pretending it doesn't is not cool.

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RE[5]: "us geeks?"
by lucas_maximus on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 09:08 in reply to "RE[4]: "us geeks?""
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

And as I said, if you really cared you would use gNewSense, with one of those Chinese MIPS based laptops.

I hate how people have bought into the RMS bullshit, that somehow proprietary software is some sort of social disease ...

Comparing using software with a particular license to things like the civil rights movement et al. is actually pretty retarded and it makes you sound like you are some kind of nutjob.

Edited 2011-11-23 09:13 UTC

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RE[6]: "us geeks?"
by ngaio on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 09:17 in reply to "RE[5]: "us geeks?""
ngaio Member since:
2005-10-06

Judging by your comment, in your moral universe it's perfectly good that using proprietary software produces these outcomes:

1. a handful of people become obscenely rich e.g. Gates, Ellison, Allen etc.

2. countries in which the poorest couple of billion people live spend precious resources funneling even more money to these characters, instead of having the chance to use software freely in all sense of the word free.

Maybe you don't care about these issues. Maybe they're totally foreign to you. Maybe you are incapable of seeing beyond your own limited situation in life.

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