Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Nov 2011 21:39 UTC
Windows The Windows 8 blog has a post about the improvements in Windows 8's installation process. "For Windows 8, our goal was to continue to improve reliability while also improving the installation experience and raw performance. Not only did we want it to be rock solid, but also faster and easier to use." Thankfully, the features us geeks like are still there.
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RE[6]: "us geeks?"
by ngaio on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 09:17 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: "us geeks?""
ngaio
Member since:
2005-10-06

Judging by your comment, in your moral universe it's perfectly good that using proprietary software produces these outcomes:

1. a handful of people become obscenely rich e.g. Gates, Ellison, Allen etc.

2. countries in which the poorest couple of billion people live spend precious resources funneling even more money to these characters, instead of having the chance to use software freely in all sense of the word free.

Maybe you don't care about these issues. Maybe they're totally foreign to you. Maybe you are incapable of seeing beyond your own limited situation in life.

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RE[7]: "us geeks?"
by lucas_maximus on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 09:36 in reply to "RE[6]: "us geeks?""
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Judging by your comment, in your moral universe it's perfectly good that using proprietary software produces these outcomes:

1. a handful of people become obscenely rich e.g. Gates, Ellison, Allen etc.


There are always winners and losers in life. These people were in the right places, with the right skills to exploit the opportunies that presented themselves.

When IBM approached gates ... he actually recommended CP/M and actually gave IBM the guys contact details, his wife blew the deal with IBM and they came back to gates and the rest is History.

Your problem is?

2. countries in which the poorest couple of billion people live spend precious resources funneling even more money to these characters, instead of having the chance to use software freely in all sense of the word free.


Lets work on the clean drinking water thing first ;-)

Seriously, there are complex political problems ... free software won't fix this ... Education will.

Maybe you don't care about these issues. Maybe they're totally foreign to you. Maybe you are incapable of seeing beyond your own limited situation in life.


Maybe you are talking out of your arse?

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RE[8]: "us geeks?"
by ngaio on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 09:47 in reply to "RE[7]: "us geeks?""
ngaio Member since:
2005-10-06

There are always winners and losers in life. These people were in the right places, with the right skills to exploit the opportunies that presented themselves.


Aha! Your first actual argument in this discussion. And lo and behold, you're making a systems justification argument. No surprise there. Your moral reasoning is that the way things work is basically good, the system ought not to be changed, and you don't want anyone telling you it should.

Maybe you are talking out of your arse?


And here you're reverting to juvenile insults, again. You don't actually have a real argument extending much beyond "I don't want to know about it".

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RE[8]: "us geeks?"
by westlake on Wed 23rd Nov 2011 23:16 in reply to "RE[7]: "us geeks?""
westlake Member since:
2010-01-07

When IBM approached gates ... he actually recommended CP/M and actually gave IBM the guys contact details, his wife blew the deal with IBM and they came back to gates and the rest is History.


The truth is simpler and more mundane.

Microsoft promised to deliver a cheap, serviceable, 16 bit CP/M clone that would be ready in time for the scheduled launch of the new IBM PC.

$50 retail list vs $250 for CP/M 86.

Which shipped about six months or so later. It might as well have been five years.

The non-exclusive license would make the MS-DOS PC a viable commercial product before the cloning of the IBM PC-BIOS.

2. countries in which the poorest couple of billion people live spend precious resources funneling even more money to these characters, instead of having the chance to use software freely in all sense of the word free.


All the Windows eco-system gave these countries were de-facto hardware and software standards for the PC

For an emergent middle class entering a global market place that was a prescription for rapid growth.

The PC is - almost by definition - middle class. You work with words and numbers. You have decent housing, light and power and communications.

In contrast, OLPC has distributed a bare 2 million laptops to grade school kids globally. 1.5 million to Latin America. Not the poorest of the poor.

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RE[7]: "us geeks?"
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 25th Nov 2011 16:00 in reply to "RE[6]: "us geeks?""
BallmerKnowsBest Member since:
2008-06-02

Judging by your comment, in your moral universe it's perfectly good that using proprietary software produces these outcomes:

1. a handful of people become obscenely rich e.g. Gates, Ellison, Allen etc.


And the problem with that is...? Or are you one of those people who just blindly opposes all wealth or commerce out of some sense of vague, poorly-defined principle?

2. countries in which the poorest couple of billion people live spend precious resources funneling even more money to these characters, instead of having the chance to use software freely in all sense of the word free.


"Won't someone PLEASE think of The Children?!?! I mean... think of The Impoverished?!?!?!?"

Maybe you don't care about these issues. Maybe they're totally foreign to you. Maybe you are incapable of seeing beyond your own limited situation in life.


...or maybe you're just a self-righteous d-bag, indulging in some "subtle" morally-superior posturing.

Nah, that couldn't possibly be it. Let us bask in the light of your obvious moral superiority, oh Enlightened One!

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