Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 27th Nov 2011 22:07 UTC, submitted by Nooone
Linux So, it's no secret that the Linux desktop - at least, the GNOME-side of things - is a bit in a state of disarray. Unity hasn't exactly gone down well with a lot of people, and GNOME 3, too, hasn't been met with universal praise. So, what to do? Linux Mint, currently one of the most popular Linux distributions out there, thinks they are on to the solution with their latest release, Linux Mint 12.
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RE[2]: Lessons learned
by kurkosdr on Mon 28th Nov 2011 12:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Lessons learned"
kurkosdr
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2011-04-11

"when you are doing something very new, don't force it on everyone, make it optional. "

The problem with that would be that the Gnome team would have to maintain Gnome 2 and Gnome 3, aka split manpower between the two DEs (Gnome 2 and Gnome 3). As if there wasn't already enough fragmentation of manpower between different DEs in Linuxland. The correct choice would be not taking such a radical departure from Gnome 2, because quite frankly they are not professional UI designers, so they should be doing evolutionary changes based on experience instead of radical changes based on what they think is right.

As i 've said before, the mess with the DEs in Linux is a bad one. I wish the Mint team the best of luck, but cannot count on it for my computing needs.

Edited 2011-11-28 12:34 UTC

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RE[3]: Lessons learned
by Lennie on Mon 28th Nov 2011 14:08 in reply to "RE[2]: Lessons learned"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I mean GNOME3 almost got it right will fallback, a lot actually works.

It just needs more polishing so people who are used to GNOME2 actually want to use it.

Then people can try out GNOME3 and the community can make clear what they like and don't like so it can be explained or changed, maybe an option added in the next update/upgrade.

KDE4, I think, didn't even have the fallback.

You have to remember with GNOME3/KDE4 you are doing 2 big changes: Interface and hardware supported.

Edited 2011-11-28 14:10 UTC

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RE[4]: Lessons learned
by k4ever on Mon 28th Nov 2011 15:50 in reply to "RE[3]: Lessons learned"
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2007-03-20

I'm a big time KDE fan. I never liked the "treat your users like idiots" mantra that GNOME planners seemed to have. However, I feel the pain that GNOME users are going through right now. When KDE 4.0 came out it was buggy as hell. I stuck with KDE 3.x as long as I could and then switched to GNOME once KDE 3.x started to lose support. It wasn't until KDE 4.3 that I went back. KDE 4.6 is awesome and just as stable as KDE 3.x was. GNOME 3.x is new and going through it's growing pains right now. GNOME users need to keep hammering the developers to get something palatable to them. I think Mint 12's approach is great. Hopefully some of their ideas will be adopted by the GNOME team and developed further.

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