Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Dec 2011 22:29 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption So, this has been causing a bit of a major dungstorm - and rightly so. As it turns out, many carriers are installing a piece of non-removable privacy-invading spyware on their smartphones called CarrierIQ. It doesn't matter whether you have a webOS, Android, BlackBerry or iOS device - carriers install it on all of them. Luckily though, it would appear it really depends on your carrier - smartphones in The Netherlands, for instance, are not infested with CarrierIQ. Update: As John Gruber rightfully points out, ever so verbosely, the headline here isn't particularly well-chosen. The article makes all this clear, but the headline doesn't. It's my birthday today, so my head wasn't totally in it - my apologies! Update II: Just got a statement from an HP spokesperson: "HP does not install nor authorize its partners to embed Carrier IQ on its webOS devices."
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RE: BlackBerry, really?
by chrish on Thu 1st Dec 2011 15:08 UTC in reply to "BlackBerry, really?"
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If CarrierIQ is on a BlackBerry it's because the user (or their BES admin) installed it and authorized it to run, not the carrier. RIM has never authorized the carriers to install CarrierIQ.

Disclosure: I work for BlackBerry Security at RIM.

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RE[2]: BlackBerry, really?
by 1c3d0g on Thu 1st Dec 2011 18:23 in reply to "RE: BlackBerry, really?"
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There are higher forces at work here. Do you REALLY think the feds and other three letter agencies DON'T know what you're up to? That's naive, to say the least. And no, I don't wear a tinfoil hat, but it's logical to assume that once you're connected to any network, someone's watching you from somewhere...

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RE[3]: BlackBerry, really?
by zima on Sun 4th Dec 2011 15:01 in reply to "RE[2]: BlackBerry, really?"
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Unlikely on a per individual basis.

Something perhaps watches you from somewhere, as just one blip among millions to data mine - and triggers some alarm at abnormal activity, at most (with ever more higher steps in the chain gradually moving from people to software)

You're not that interesting / there are way too many virtually identical primates also running around (which also provides a nice statistical baseline, highlights what stands out)

Yes, the perfect organization, hiding its collective nature from virtually all members / that's how Skynet will come ;p

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RE[2]: BlackBerry, really?
by Morgan on Thu 1st Dec 2011 21:09 in reply to "RE: BlackBerry, really?"
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Interesting, I was always under the impression that the carriers had a lot of influence when it came to their unique versions of the BB OS. Back in the day I would play with different carriers' versions of the OS for the Storm phones, as I was using a Storm on AT&T's network and I wanted the best experience. There were a lot of low-level differences among each build.

That said, I imagine something like CarrierIQ would be blocked by RIM as it contradicts their marketing regarding security.

By the way, nice to see another Thief fan out there. ;) I've been trying to convince to get the rights to redistribute the Thief series in a modern playable format. So far they have kindly told me to "taff off".

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RE[3]: BlackBerry, really?
by Jondice on Thu 1st Dec 2011 21:33 in reply to "RE[2]: BlackBerry, really?"
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I also love the Thief games, but playing a thief/assassin in the elder scrolls games is quite similar in a lot of ways (however, it has been a long time since I played Thief, so I may be missing some points).

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