Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 18:41 UTC
Windows Windows 8 will have both the new Metro-style applications and user interface and the traditional Windows 7 desktop for legacy applications, which kind of runs like an application. Since legacy applications have to be recompiled to run on ARM anyway, it's always been a bit unclear if the ARM version of Windows 8 would include the legacy desktop at all - even Microsoft itself confirmed it wasn't sure yet. Microsoft bloggers Mary-Jo Foley and Paul Thurrot have fresh rumours that Microsoft has now made the decision to remove the legacy desktop from the ARM version.
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missed opportunity
by FunkyELF on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 19:28 UTC
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2006-07-26

Windows 8 at first seemed like the holy grail of operating systems. A desktop when you need it to be, and a tablet otherwise. I just lost interest now that if you want that experience you have to go with the x86.

If I'm looking to buy a device, I want battery life so I'll go with ARM. To me, an iOS tablet, an Android tablet, and a Windows 8 tablet are now all basically indistinguishable because there will be no "desktop" application. So why would I go with Windows when Android and iOS have been at it a lot longer and have more momentum.

Now is the chance for Android to go and do what Windows decided against. There should be a lightweight desktop environment (X or Wayland) for Android to run LibreOffice, GIMP, Audacity, XBMC, etc.

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RE: missed opportunity
by Moochman on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 20:41 in reply to "missed opportunity"
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2005-07-06

Just because it's missing the legacy Windows UI does not mean it won't let you hook up a mouse and keyboard. But honestly, when the option to interact directly is there I think it is more natural to do so--so the mouse wouldn't get nearly as much use anyway.

I actually think this is a great development. It means that the user experience for people using tablets will *actually be optimized for touch*. No more tiny widgets that you have to guess whether you hit with your finger or not. For most people who don't need some specialty programs that are available on x86, this is the way to go.

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RE[2]: missed opportunity
by Neolander on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 20:58 in reply to "RE: missed opportunity"
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2010-03-08

I actually think this is a great development. It means that the user experience for people using tablets will *actually be optimized for touch*. No more tiny widgets that you have to guess whether you hit with your finger or not. For most people who don't need some specialty programs that are available on x86, this is the way to go.

Well, the whole point of WinRT, if I get it right, is to introduce scalable UIs that work okay on both mouse and finger. Whether current Win8 pre-release achieve that goal is debatable, but it is certainly something worth trying.

If Microsoft reverted to a basic "touch-optimized" behaviour, as you suggest, then Windows 8 on ARM loses one potential great asset over its competitors, and becomes yet another boring tablet OS with oversized controls that are only suitable for content consumption. It then becomes dubious why people should try this new platform instead of well-established actors like iOS or Android.

Edited 2011-12-02 21:06 UTC

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RE: missed opportunity
by tuma324 on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 23:06 in reply to "missed opportunity"
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2010-04-09

Now is the chance for Android to go and do what Windows decided against. There should be a lightweight desktop environment (X or Wayland) for Android to run LibreOffice, GIMP, Audacity, XBMC, etc.


I hope it's Wayland in that case, and not X.

Edited 2011-12-02 23:08 UTC

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