Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 1st Dec 2011 23:39 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption In order to not end up with ten different posts or endless updates to the previous one, I'm using this post to assemble all the official responses from both carriers and device makers alike concerning the CarrierIQ rootkit/spyware/whatever. Update: Added official statement from HP regarding webOS (see bottom).
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Americans!
by utumno on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 05:16 UTC
utumno
Member since:
2008-02-10

I could never understand why you guys always get a subsidized phone from a carrier? AFAIK , buying an unlocked phone in US is pretty much unheard of.

Carrier IQ is only one way in which carriers rape you in the a**. Actively disabling bluetooth is another, intrusive branding and preinstalled crapware and spyware is another. Wake up!

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RE: Americans!
by earksiinni on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 20:59 in reply to "Americans!"
earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

I could never understand why you guys always get a subsidized phone from a carrier? AFAIK , buying an unlocked phone in US is pretty much unheard of.


So you think that it's unheard of because the option is available but we just choose not to exercise it? AFAIK, all the major carriers do not allow/do not support unlocked phones on their networks.

I think no contract plans are beginning to pick up some speed, though that's not the same thing as allowing unlocked phones. I use Boost, a smaller carrier that runs off of Sprint's network, which offers the cheapest unlimited plans on the market and only sells unsubsidized phones. However, I don't think that they're unlocked, and also I think that they only use CDMA and iDEN, so that rules out any third party GSM phones.

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RE[2]: Americans!
by zima on Thu 8th Dec 2011 22:10 in reply to "RE: Americans!"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

GSM networks support any GSM phone which will accept (which is unlocked) their SIM card (well, as long as sometimes-weird frequencies are accounted for; not much of a problem nowadays), that's the thing about GSM standard... GSM is GSM. And yeah, verified by some of my buddies who took (far) their own phones during a stay in your general region, for use with local networks.
(as for the other type of your local standards - as far as one can tell, they were meant to lock you in)

So it seems, at least, that you might have at large inaccurate perceptions about what's possible (aided by carrier PR, I bet), accept upgrade cycles and contracts as "inevitable".

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