Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 18:41 UTC
Windows Windows 8 will have both the new Metro-style applications and user interface and the traditional Windows 7 desktop for legacy applications, which kind of runs like an application. Since legacy applications have to be recompiled to run on ARM anyway, it's always been a bit unclear if the ARM version of Windows 8 would include the legacy desktop at all - even Microsoft itself confirmed it wasn't sure yet. Microsoft bloggers Mary-Jo Foley and Paul Thurrot have fresh rumours that Microsoft has now made the decision to remove the legacy desktop from the ARM version.
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RE[5]: missed opportunity
by MysterMask on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 11:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: missed opportunity"
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Your horizon concerning 'content creation' is too limited: there is other content then large LATEX documents or 10000 lines of source code. It's just that traditional PCs / Laptops where never used for certain content creation stuff because they were unsuitable for the job. You can't measure 'content creation' by setting it equal to 'content created with PCs'.

E. g. think about photography: would you use the PC to take a picture? No, you would use it only for 'post-creation' because the camera is not good for that (to little cpu power, unsuitable interface). Now imagine having a device like a tablet with a bigger display than a camera and enough cpu-power to do photo editing / enhancements 'in-situ'. No need to carry a heavy laptop with you in most cases ..
Same goes for live music as already mentioned above.
Or think about SMS/Twitter/.. . this is content, too and it works well enough in mobile situations on touch devices (or at least way better than carrying a Laptop/PC around).

The cool thing about the 'post PC' era are new opportunities for creative developers and this includes media creation, too. Just because people (and hence developers) are more often consumers than creators and hence more creative applications for consumption than creation are developed does not mean that there are no media creation solution suitable for touch / tables input.

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RE[6]: missed opportunity
by Neolander on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 13:08 in reply to "RE[5]: missed opportunity"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Your horizon concerning 'content creation' is too limited: there is other content then large LATEX documents or 10000 lines of source code. It's just that traditional PCs / Laptops where never used for certain content creation stuff because they were unsuitable for the job. You can't measure 'content creation' by setting it equal to 'content created with PCs'.

But I can reasonably state that current PCs are much more suitable for heavy content creation (as opposed to writing < 1000 char mails or cropping photos) than current tablets.

E. g. think about photography: would you use the PC to take a picture? No, you would use it only for 'post-creation' because the camera is not good for that (to little cpu power, unsuitable interface). Now imagine having a device like a tablet with a bigger display than a camera and enough cpu-power to do photo editing / enhancements 'in-situ'. No need to carry a heavy laptop with you in most cases ..

You have a point. However, before this actually happens, transferring photographs between a camera and a tablet must be made much more seamless than it currently is, as an example by equipping more tablets with USB ports or SD card slots.

Guess this won't be a standard feature of Apple's tablets anytime soon, maybe Android users will have more luck.

Same goes for live music as already mentioned above.

What do you call live music in this context ?

Or think about SMS/Twitter/.. . this is content, too and it works well enough in mobile situations on touch devices (or at least way better than carrying a Laptop/PC around).

You are talking to the wrong person for that. I am a heavy texter (~1000 texts/months), and even the most basic keypad-based cellphone out there is better for texting than my current touchscreen-based phone. I bought it in March as an experiment to see if I can finally understand the touchscreen fad, and the answer is clear : I do not. It's just horrible. I'm definitely going back to candybar keyboard-based phones for every future purchase. I know that some people manage to put up with them, though, and I'm happy for them, but I, personally, need something more serious.

The cool thing about the 'post PC' era are new opportunities for creative developers and this includes media creation, too. Just because people (and hence developers) are more often consumers than creators and hence more creative applications for consumption than creation are developed does not mean that there are no media creation solution suitable for touch / tables input.

Well, again, I do not dispute that statement if you equip those with more serious input devices, such as an optional keyboard or stylus that seamlessly integrates within the tablet's design.

Edited 2011-12-03 13:10 UTC

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RE[7]: missed opportunity
by lucas_maximus on Sun 4th Dec 2011 15:52 in reply to "RE[6]: missed opportunity"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I know some Art teachers that are loving the iPad because they can actually Paint on it. That is as much content creation as creating blog/Latex/whatever.

Like most computing devices, an iPad is a tool. PCs with keyboard and mice are good for certain things, other input methods (touch and before that Wacom Tablets).

Some in this thread seem to be trying to compare a Hammer to a Torque Wrench.

Personally I would loved to have a tablet and used that as a notebook in lectures.

I can imagine people using large touch based screen for Cad and Cam ... in fact the best bit of the Iron Man movie was when he was using the holographic interface to design the first suit.

Also even Jean Luc Picard used an iPad/Kindle for some stuff and what was blatently a netbook (though I can't find the images).

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/08/how-star-trek-artists-ima...

Edited 2011-12-04 15:54 UTC

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