Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 5th Dec 2011 22:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Cheap Android tablets are all over the place, and generally not any good. They often have resistive touch screens instead of capacitive ones, are slow, or have no access to the Android Market. For Ice Cream Sandwich, MIPS Technologies is trotting out its existing Honeycomb tablet - which, you guessed it, uses a MIPS processor - licensed to Ainovo. For some reason, that makes this $99 tablet with capacitive screen kind of interesting.
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RE: 'scuse me Fester
by unclefester on Tue 6th Dec 2011 03:31 UTC in reply to "'scuse me Fester"
unclefester
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I'm serious. Apple is going to be totally overwhelmed by many powerful and dirt cheap tablets and phones within 6-12 months.

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RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester
by leos on Tue 6th Dec 2011 03:53 in reply to "RE: 'scuse me Fester"
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2005-09-21

I'm serious. Apple is going to be totally overwhelmed by many powerful and dirt cheap tablets and phones within 6-12 months.


Same thing was said 6-12 months ago. Funny how that hasn't happened.

It's almost like some people actually want a quality product (whether that's apple or android) and not the cheapest thing out there.

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RE[3]: 'scuse me Fester
by unclefester on Tue 6th Dec 2011 12:20 in reply to "RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester"
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2007-01-13

Same thing was said 6-12 months ago. Funny how that hasn't happened.

You couldn't buy a $100 tablet a year ago. You can now.

It's almost like some people actually want a quality product (whether that's apple or android) and not the cheapest thing out there.

The best use for tablets is keeping young children amused. Young children only need to watch movies, read a story or play simple games. This need is easily satisfied by very cheap tablets.

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RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester
by bloodline on Tue 6th Dec 2011 08:52 in reply to "RE: 'scuse me Fester"
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2008-07-28

I'm serious. Apple is going to be totally overwhelmed by many powerful and dirt cheap tablets and phones within 6-12 months.


Tablets are "lifestyle" machines, not commodity devices... If you can afford a tablet you don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. People buy Tablets not because they need them, but because they WANT them... Apple will dominate the Tablet market for as long as the tablet is a luxury device, as soon as they become commodity devices that is when Apple will suffer market losses, only then will cheap tablets have a real market.

Back on topic, from hardware point of view the MIPS is beautiful... It truly is my favourite CPU ISA (possibly only just second to 68k, but only because I have history there with my Amiga experience). But from a practical perspective, the ARM wins hands down... Designed not by idealist scientists (like MIPS), but by two engineers (with virtually no budget) it makes sensible engineering trade offs that allow it to dominate the Low Power market.

Like Thom, I also wouldn't mind this device just for exotic hardware geek lust, though I wouldn't expect it to be a practical device ;)

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RE[3]: 'scuse me Fester
by biffuz on Tue 6th Dec 2011 11:21 in reply to "RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester"
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People buy Tablets not because they need them, but because they WANT them... Apple will dominate the Tablet market for as long as the tablet is a luxury device, as soon as they become commodity devices that is when Apple will suffer market losses, only then will cheap tablets have a real market.


You're right, tablets are luxury devices because most of the people don't need it. But when people will stop wanting them, cheap tablets are not going to have a real market... it will simply collapse.

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RE[3]: 'scuse me Fester
by zima on Tue 6th Dec 2011 11:30 in reply to "RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester"
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2005-07-06

Tablets are "lifestyle" machines, not commodity devices... If you can afford a tablet you don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. People buy Tablets not because they need them, but because they WANT them... Apple will dominate the Tablet market for as long as the tablet is a luxury device, as soon as they become commodity devices that is when Apple will suffer market losses, only then will cheap tablets have a real market.

There's some logic loop, non sequitur of sorts there - paraphrasing, roughly: one very successful tablet doesn't target lesser people ...hence there's no real market for tablets which would target them?

It's not really about scraping the bottom of the barrel (that's a very relative thing) either, there are billions of people who would probably do well with a tablet - there are 2+ billion PC users, 5+ billion mobile subscribers (how many of them need those phones? how were they able to get by a short decade ago?); the numbers receptive to some kind of a tablet* possibly fall somewhere in-between, and Apple openly states distaste for targeting them.

With economies of scale & software base the choices of those people should, yeah, in time overwhelm classes of devices aiming at "premium" image (oh well, home computers, Macintosh, workstations and PC all over again). And it will be very much a "lifestyle" for many (most?) of them, just as mobile phones already are.


PS. * Though I wouldn't be too surprised if we'd - partially or largely - settle on, essentially, small tablets with phone functionality (just without their usual now, in developed markets at least, silly price premiums); at least it would finally give real purpose to Bluetooth headsets...
(and, in a "largely" variant, would allow many to claim that Apple never gave away the tablet market; while what would really happen is that the rest of the world leapfrogged it, like with music players)

Edited 2011-12-06 11:38 UTC

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RE[3]: 'scuse me Fester
by unclefester on Tue 6th Dec 2011 12:46 in reply to "RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester"
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2007-01-13


Tablets are "lifestyle" machines, not commodity devices... If you can afford a tablet you don't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel. People buy Tablets not because they need them, but because they WANT them... Apple will dominate the Tablet market for as long as the tablet is a luxury device, as soon as they become commodity devices that is when Apple will suffer market losses, only then will cheap tablets have a real market.


There is already a massive market for cheap tablets - children. A tablet is a movie player, story book and games machine all in one. Even the very cheapest 7" tablets are more than adequate for keeping a child amused.

Within 12-24 months the tablet will be as common as a games console or a DVD player in middle class homes.

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RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 6th Dec 2011 15:20 in reply to "RE: 'scuse me Fester"
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2006-07-14

The reality is that most people don't care about raw specs, but on the actual experience of using the device. My wife has a much better phone spec wise than her friend who has an original iphone 3g. However, her Sony Experia X10 keeps crapping out on her: slowing down randomly rebooting, ect. That doesn't happen to her friend with the older, slower cpu'd less memoried, iphone.

I think Apple will be fine.

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RE[3]: 'scuse me Fester
by leos on Tue 6th Dec 2011 21:02 in reply to "RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester"
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2005-09-21

I think Apple will be fine.


Not to mention that their specs have been competitive lately. Still haven't seen a tablet or phone with a better GPU than the iPad2. Perhaps the Tegra3 surpasses it, but I haven't seen any benchmarks on that yet and it isn't out in anything.

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RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester
by David on Tue 6th Dec 2011 21:30 in reply to "RE: 'scuse me Fester"
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Yeah, just like how the easy availability of dirt cheap mp3 players totally destroyed Apple's iPod business.

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RE[2]: 'scuse me Fester
by reez on Fri 9th Dec 2011 14:25 in reply to "RE: 'scuse me Fester"
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2006-06-28

I'm serious. Apple is going to be totally overwhelmed by many powerful and dirt cheap tablets and phones within 6-12 months.

Would be really nice, but I am unsure. Netbooks for example seem to become more expensive here (Europe). At least I bought my first one for just above 100EUR and three years later I can't really find anything comparable. Of course they have become better, but the main reason - at least for me - for buying such a device is that they are cheaper than something comparable.

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