Linked by lucas_maximus on Mon 5th Dec 2011 17:23 UTC
Java Patch up warmly this winter if you're running Java. That's the advice from .NET shop Microsoft, which reckons Oracle's platform is the single biggest target for hackers. Java proved the single most popular target in the 12-month period to the end of June, according to Microsoft's latest Security Intelligence Report has found here Running Java as a Web-browser Plugin is much more dangerous than Flash, and should disable the Java Applet Plugin.
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RE[4]: That was painful
by Straho on Tue 6th Dec 2011 15:27 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: That was painful"
Straho
Member since:
2011-09-30

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough.
I didn't said that java plugins are smart decision, they are awful. Flash is peace of shit also.
I just say that it's not Java/Oracle fault, just because from what I read there have update for issues and this is just cheap anti-advertising from MS. To blame platform because lazy developers and uneducated users is ridiculous.
That's really simple: vulnerability is found, now everybody knows about it, I begin to exploit vulnerability, updates are produce, nobody use them, I still exploit vulnerability.

MS allow outdated and cracked software on Windows. That made it the most popular "General purpose OS for masses on desktop and laptops". But everything has good and bad side, article is about bad side.

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RE[5]: That was painful
by Straho on Tue 6th Dec 2011 15:52 in reply to "RE[4]: That was painful"
Straho Member since:
2011-09-30

Actually I read only article not PDF, but when browse PDF I was shocked. Page 63 from 168 show a graphic where you could learn that detected Operating Systems exploits was doubled at the end of 2Q2011 and at second place after Java exploits. May be for 3Q2011 we should expect OS exploits to be more than Java.

May be masses should be warned about that in this cheap article.

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RE[5]: That was painful
by lucas_maximus on Tue 6th Dec 2011 16:03 in reply to "RE[4]: That was painful"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Flash is peace of shit also.


It isn't particularly good, but for cross browser video and audio it is the only sensible choice.

I can either try supporting WebM, MP4 and Flash ... or just use Flash and Mp4 for iOS, I have covered the overwhelming majority of visitors.

There is no advantage of running a Java Applet unless you are a business that has specific applications that use it.

MS allow outdated and cracked software on Windows


It called backwards compatibility ... very important for businesses. TBH if a piece of software works why change it?

As for illegal software, I am sure you can run it on other platforms as well.

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RE[6]: That was painful
by Straho on Tue 6th Dec 2011 18:11 in reply to "RE[5]: That was painful"
Straho Member since:
2011-09-30


It called backwards compatibility ... very important for businesses. TBH if a piece of software works why change it?

I and most people I know at least patch security updates on our systems. I'm not sure about Java, but for last 4 years I patched hundreds Oracle DB servers, Red Hat, OEL and HP-UX machines with security and bug fixing patches and they still works.
Most of the companies also pay for software support. For example Quest Software never broke Toad for Oracle for me, but produce some bug fixes, same with Altova. (That's closed software companies, with Open source is even easier.)
Masses are just ignorant and stupid. They care about their cars tires and fuel, to change oil, breaks , but never care about theirs computers systems, personal information, etcetera, etcetera.

Edited 2011-12-06 18:15 UTC

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