Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 8th Dec 2011 12:22 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y So, Marco Arment, John Gruber, and MG Siegler (has anyone ever seen them in the same room?) all jumped on a quote from Eric Schmidt which was supposedly very arrogant and proves Schmidt knows no developer likes Android. The joke's on them, though, since none of them actually bothered to watch the source video to verify Schmidt was quoted properly. As it turns out, he was not, as Julian Yap notes. Update: Arment, Siegler, and Gruber have posted updates.
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Clever Google
by Kebabbert on Thu 8th Dec 2011 13:19 UTC
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Member since:
2007-07-27

I really admire Google's manipulation of people and very subtile advertising. The marketing people at Google are very good and thought hard to come up with this simple sentence:

"Google is your friend"

Simply genius. Many people write it, and say it everyday without knowing that Google is doing. Google has been working hard to spread that sentence among common people. And people dont know they are spreading and instilling what Google want us to think of Google. Never mind all the espionage Google and Facebook does on us. Everybody should chant "Google is nice", "Google is your friend", "Google is not evil". etc

Why is google my friend? What friend? How is Google nice? Is Facebook also my friend? Should I give Facebook and Google access to all my personal data?

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RE: Clever Google
by SojoPhoto on Thu 8th Dec 2011 13:31 in reply to "Clever Google"
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2011-12-08

And Apple is nicer, more of a friend, etc... ?

In today's world, as long as you have a connection, whether it be a cell phone, home phone, cable, internet, or anything, you have given your information to the world. Even buying a car, you sign those papers, and they sell your information to the world. Why? Becahse they make money. At least with Google, I am aware of this, and it is known, unlike other companies who try and hide the fact. Everyone knows Google makes money off of the people who use their products, but people are ignorant to think companies like, Apple, HP, Dell, and others do not.

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RE[2]: Clever Google
by _xmv on Thu 8th Dec 2011 14:29 in reply to "RE: Clever Google"
_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

And Apple is nicer, more of a friend, etc... ?

In today's world, as long as you have a connection, whether it be a cell phone, home phone, cable, internet, or anything, you have given your information to the world. Even buying a car, you sign those papers, and they sell your information to the world. Why? Becahse they make money. At least with Google, I am aware of this, and it is known, unlike other companies who try and hide the fact. Everyone knows Google makes money off of the people who use their products, but people are ignorant to think companies like, Apple, HP, Dell, and others do not.


There are companies that do not do that, and actively fight against it. Take Mozilla for example.

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RE: Clever Google
by WorknMan on Thu 8th Dec 2011 13:34 in reply to "Clever Google"
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2005-11-13

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Edited 2011-12-08 13:36 UTC

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RE: Clever Google
by karunko on Thu 8th Dec 2011 13:37 in reply to "Clever Google"
karunko Member since:
2008-10-28

Why is google my friend? What friend? How is Google nice? Is Facebook also my friend? Should I give Facebook and Google access to all my personal data?

What has this to do with Thom's post? Short attention span or? ;-)


RT.

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RE[2]: Clever Google
by Neolander on Thu 8th Dec 2011 14:42 in reply to "RE: Clever Google"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Char-perfect copy of a post he made somewhere else. It made sense in the context of the topic where it was initially posted.

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RE: Clever Google
by mantrik00 on Thu 8th Dec 2011 13:42 in reply to "Clever Google"
mantrik00 Member since:
2011-07-06

But Google knows as much about users of its services and products as Apple, or any other service provider. To their credit Google manages to attract so many users despite spending frugal amounts for advertising when compared to humongous ad budget of Apple (which was almost $700 million in 2010).

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RE: Clever Google
by andydread on Thu 8th Dec 2011 15:42 in reply to "Clever Google"
andydread Member since:
2009-02-02

I really admire Google's manipulation of people and very subtile advertising. The marketing people at Google are very good and thought hard to come up with this simple sentence:

"Google is your friend"

Simply genius. Many people write it, and say it everyday without knowing that Google is doing. Google has been working hard to spread that sentence among common people. And people dont know they are spreading and instilling what Google want us to think of Google. Never mind all the espionage Google and Facebook does on us. Everybody should chant "Google is nice", "Google is your friend", "Google is not evil". etc

Why is google my friend? What friend? How is Google nice? Is Facebook also my friend? Should I give Facebook and Google access to all my personal data?


The only difference is that with Microsoft and Apple you PAY real money for the privilege of having you data shared with advertisers. Thanks but not thanks. Either way I'll go the free route.

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RE[2]: Clever Google
by leos on Thu 8th Dec 2011 16:02 in reply to "RE: Clever Google"
leos Member since:
2005-09-21

The only difference is that with Microsoft and Apple you PAY real money for the privilege of having you data shared with advertisers. Thanks but not thanks. Either way I'll go the free route.


There is a big difference between Apple and Google. Google's entire business hinges on advertising and their primary goal is to increase that through different vectors (Android being one). Apple makes their money from selling devices and software, and it is in their best interest to protect the experience of their users.

It's just a question of motivations. The whole point of android is to increase advertising revenues for Google. Given equal scenarios, I'd much rather trust my data to Apple (or Microsoft for that matter, although they are also expanding into advertising)

Edited 2011-12-08 16:04 UTC

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