Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 10th Dec 2011 10:09 UTC, submitted by Valhalla
Apple Just when I thought the company I once admired greatly couldn't sink any lower. "Over the last two years, Apple has been engaged in vicious legal battles over smartphone patents, many of which are aimed at squelching (or squeezing money out of) manufacturers of devices running Android. And now, for some reason, it has given valuable patents to a patent troll - which is using them to sue many of the top technology companies in the world."
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Apple's never been an angel
by kateline on Sat 10th Dec 2011 11:04 UTC
kateline
Member since:
2011-05-19

What amazes me is that there's always been this fan club for Apple, made up of people who hate evil Microsoft. Yeah, Apple makes lots of neat consumer products. But their corporate behavior has always been like any other company. This became apparent to me back in the 90's, when I couldn't open one of their laptops because of the proprietary screw-heads they use. Closed, closed, closed.

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RE: Apple's never been an angel
by ephracis on Sat 10th Dec 2011 11:19 in reply to "Apple's never been an angel"
ephracis Member since:
2007-09-23

Voted +1.

I'm amazed that people are fans of any company. No company is an angel.

I mean I can see being a fan of some hypothetical developer whom focuses on privacy, creating an amazingly awesome music player and whom on top of everything donates any money left over to charity. ;)

But not a for-profit company.



Maybe this is just a new tactic used by the new heads of Apple now when SJ is gone? I am expecting some kind of change in tactics, but could this be it? I sure hope not...

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fran Member since:
2010-08-06

Yes, if you manifest some companies into a single living person it would be a heartless psychopath intend in killing the competition and destroying others livelyhoods.
Blinded idolatry is not a good thing.

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Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

I'm amazed that people are fans of any company. No company is an angel.


I agree but ... they are not all equal on one hand we have Apple, MS on the other Red Hat, Canonical. Lets judge companies by what they do not what they are.

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_xmv Member since:
2008-12-09

Voted +1.

I'm amazed that people are fans of any company. No company is an angel.

I mean I can see being a fan of some hypothetical developer whom focuses on privacy, creating an amazingly awesome music player and whom on top of everything donates any money left over to charity. ;)

But not a for-profit company.



Maybe this is just a new tactic used by the new heads of Apple now when SJ is gone? I am expecting some kind of change in tactics, but could this be it? I sure hope not...


And it will happen to Google too eventually, as they started to show some evil side lately.

There aren't any not-for-profit companies that succeed also. They get crushed by lobbies, etc.. and even fanbois usually.

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No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

I owned one of their late 90s laptops, and the hardware was a joy to work with. Very accessible. The firmware and software was terrible, though, and Apple really really likes the idea of forced obsolescence.

They also like to keep things just incompatible enough with everything else so that you can't really use both a Mac and some other thing. In that way, they really are more Microsoft than Microsoft, which I think was the reason for both their (relative) lack of success and the rabidness of their cult: cultists need to convert people to their side since, well, using a Mac kind of sucks in the real world. But using something else in a Mac world would be a thousand times worse.

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shotsman Member since:
2005-07-22

In general you might be right. I've only ever come upon one ethical computer company. Sadly they don't exist any more.

Re Apple.
It is strange that my MacBook finds 'Windows shares' easier than Windows (All versions).

It also works OOTB with more printers than Windows.

It also reads more types of hdd filesystem OOTB than Windows does.

Funny that.

They might be the devil incarnate but some of their products are pretty good.
MS was the devil and their (IMHO) products are Devilish and sometimes pretty poor in comparison to Apples.
MS's saving grace is IMHO, Office for Mac. I can use it far more efficiently than Office 2010 for Windows.
However it is probably the devil in sheeps clothing.

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RE: Apple's never been an angel
by AdamW on Sun 11th Dec 2011 02:11 in reply to "Apple's never been an angel"
AdamW Member since:
2005-07-06

'Proprietary' screw heads are usually a terrible example to choose. First, they're rarely 'proprietary' - what people mean when they say 'proprietary' is 'not like the two century-or-more old designs everyone has drivers for'. Few of the slightly-more-unusual designs are actually proprietary, many of them are actually internationally standardized, and it's usually trivially easy to buy a driver for any of them off eBay or in any good hardware store for a couple of dollars.

Second, there are entirely legitimate reasons to choose screw head designs other than slot or cross-head which have nothing to do with preventing people accessing the inside: the name of the most popular 'weird' screw style, Torx, may give you a clue. They're designed to be more reliable in automated processes: Torx screws are much harder to over-torque than slot or cross-heads, and most of the 'weird' designs can be driven by robots with less chance of slippage. That's why they're used, it's not really about 'locking you out' of the system. If the manufacturer wants to do that, they'll either just weld/glue the thing shut, or stick a 'WARRANTY VOID' sticker over the seal. Or both.

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